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November 1, 2014 at 8:43 am #36328Mark MorrisonParticipant
Registration is now open for NCK ‘s Western States Road Race Classic at Sonoma Raceway on Nov. 29
For more info go to nckroadracing.com
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November 4, 2014 at 4:25 pm #36509Larry DobbsParticipant
Weather is going to be perfect! Bring a jacket hat and gloves for when you are not racing.
High 56° RealFeel® 49°
Wind N 15 mph
SunnyLo 36°RealFeel® 30°
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November 5, 2014 at 6:36 am #36543Larry DobbsParticipant
Electric karts entered in a roadrace?! How cool is that?! I can’t wait to see what they look like and how they run.
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November 5, 2014 at 10:42 am #36568Ray ChiappeParticipant
Larry you forgot “What they sound like”?
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November 6, 2014 at 6:34 am #36622Larry DobbsParticipant
I guess I forget a lot of things;)
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November 6, 2014 at 12:25 pm #36632Mark MorrisonParticipant
Ray not as load as Larry lol
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November 7, 2014 at 8:06 am #36661Larry DobbsParticipant
Wooo Hooo I am back! Thanks for all your help Mark! I have brakes again! Wait a minute . . . How come you help me with my brakes but not my motor?! Hmmm . . . . Oh well I am stoked for Sonoma! It is going to be a beautiful day of racing with an awards pizza party after. I can’t wait!
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November 7, 2014 at 11:59 am #36681Mark MorrisonParticipant
Let’s see I don’t think you want me touching your motors!
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November 11, 2014 at 1:22 am #36857Larry DobbsParticipant
Yeah you are probably right but me touching my motor is just as bad!
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November 19, 2014 at 6:58 am #37329Larry DobbsParticipant
Man, I need to go racing bad! I hope everyone knows the weather and the racing are going to be awesome! What are you waiting for, get registered! http://www.nckroadracing.com
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November 20, 2014 at 6:02 pm #37439Michael KorodyParticipant
Can someone explain to me the difference between west coast super stock Honda and the super stock Honda classes? both are listed at 400 lbs… is wc race 1 and regular race 4/7?
Looking forward to racing Sonoma with you guys… by far my favorite track in California!
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November 21, 2014 at 3:43 pm #37506Doug RingParticipant
Michael,
Race 1 is run as a standing start from the hot pit, while races 4 and 7 are rolling starts. Starting positions for races 1 and 4 are based on time/date of entry, while starting positions for race 7 are based on finishing positions from race 4.
For races 4 and 7, you need to run the same set of tires. For cost reasons, many of us use used tires for race 1, and a new set for race 4 and then carry over to race 7. Having said that, new tires for race 1 is nice, as the tracks are usually cooler and lower grip. However, if you try to run the same tires for all 3 races, it will be hairy by the end of R7 – particularly at SP and LS, which are just like big sprint tracks.
You can run the exact same kart in all three races – most of us do that. Having said that, please check the IKF rule book, as classes 19 and 20 allow use of non-CIF front fairings (nose and sidepods must be CIK). As a result, the front runners all use the larger, more aerodynamic Hegar front fairing. If you want to stick with the CIK front fairing, enter classes 16 and 14 – these classes are designed for SKUSA-spec bodywork, and run at 385#.
I’ll be working on the GP this weekend, loading the trailer on Tuesday….
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November 20, 2014 at 6:21 pm #37442FREDDY SANDOVALParticipant
Man! you guys are lucky!
I have a local race the same weekend
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November 20, 2014 at 6:29 pm #37443Michael KorodyParticipant
yes freddy. We raced laguna earlier this year and it was awesome, very close racing with alot of fast and smart drivers. as for your earlier question i don’t run a pump around and had no problem with fuel cuts/ burnt pistons after/ during that event… and i went leaner than the others mentioned in this post earlier… its all relevant to the airbox, weather and set up… even oil/fuel ratio
heres my write up and some video of laguna… as is the way my gopro craped out on me for the main race’s but its still a taste of what it was like. Cant wait for January.
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November 21, 2014 at 8:03 am #37469Larry DobbsParticipant
Michael, the classes are identical and are there to give you two times to race the same rules/class. Stock CR125’s: class #20. in race 1 (single 25 minute race) and class#19. races 4/7 (two 20 minute heats). Here’s the schedule:
NCK Race Day Schedule
Mandatory Drivers Meeting at 8:15
Practice runs until 10:30
11:00 a.m. – Race 1 (25 Minute Race) WALL START
04. Unlimited / FKE III (400 -475) – 20. WC Super Stock CR125 (400)
15. Formula 125cc Ltd Heavy (420) – 16. Formula 125cc (385)
13. TaG Light (370 -385) – 05. TaG Enduro (365 -410)
31. Rotax Max DD2 I (400) – 26. Formula 80 Sprint II (360)
11:45 a.m. – Race 2 (30 Minute Race) WALL START
06. 80cc Laydown (410) 02. Yamaha KT100S Heavy (400)
09. Yamaha Limited Heavy Sprint (360) – 60. Junior 100cc I (320)
21. World Formula Medium (365) – 54. 4 Stroke Open I (365) – 56. 4 Stroke Open Heavy I (390)
62. Junior 4 Stroke Open I (320) 44. 125cc – 150cc Open / FKE II (360 – 400)
40. VKA/VKCA Vintage I – IV (TBD)
12:15 – 1:15 p.m – Lunch Break
1:15 p.m. – Race 3 (Heat #1 – 20 Minutes) ROLLING START
47. Formula E (FE) (475) – 07. Inter -Continental -E (465) – 48. Super ICE (465)
49. 125 Gearbox Superkart (450) – 18. Formula 80cc Sr. (360) – 10. Formula 80 Jr (320)
12. TaG Heavy (400/415) – 32. Rotax Max DD2 II(400) – 11. Rotax Max Jr (320)
1:50 p.m – Race 4 (Heat #1 – 20 Minutes) ROLLING START
19. Super Stock CR125 (400) – 27. Sprint Stock CR125 (385) – 14. Formula 125cc Ltd (385)
2:25 p.m. – Race 5 (30 Minute Race) WALL START
45. 125 -150cc Open/FKE II II (360 -400)
03. 100cc Open / FKE I (360 -400) – 01. Yamaha KT100S Light (370)
08. Yamaha Limited Light Sprint (330) – 61. Junior 100cc II (320) – 22. World Formula Heavy (390) 55. 4 Stroke Open II (365) – 56. 4 Stroke Open Heavy II (390) – 63. Junior 4 Stroke Open II (320)
41. VKCA/VKA Vintage I -IV II (TBD)
3:10 p.m. – Race 6 (Heat #2 – 20 Minutes) ROLLING START
Same as Race #3
3:45 p.m. – Race 7 (Heat #2 – 20 Minutes) ROLLING START
Same as Race #4
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November 22, 2014 at 11:58 am #37561Michael LaGroneParticipant
Well said Doug,
Race #1 is winner take all one heat race. Race 4/7 is a two heat race combination with the second heat race dominant. Meaning If I finished a 1-2 Total of a 3, and Doug finished a 2-1 total of a 3 Doug will get the tie break because the 2nd heat is dominant. Racing 1,4/7 is an ALL DAY event and the last heat race of the day is where the fun begins… God Luck as I look forward to it. Lots of fast guys are entered for this race.
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November 24, 2014 at 7:50 pm #37702Jason SantanderParticipant
Anyone need a garage? i have one reserved and am not looking to run anymore, the forecast is a high probability of alot of rain, not just a little.
and im not really interested in running drenched cold, dont define that as fun. what a bummer, such a good track.
So Garage is available, see Joe Hollinger.
Birel CR32SR Complete roller $2k
set of new tires on wheels, extra set wheels, freeline large & small rad, tons of freeline componentsTWO CRS ICC motors complete- rebuilt $3k
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November 25, 2014 at 9:04 am #37730Larry DobbsParticipant
Looking forward to racing this Saturday. So what if the weather might not cooperate! I have raced here rain and shine and it is a blast either way! Get some vinyl over clothes and some antifog for your visor and bring a change of socks! We live in CA! We put a wet suit on to surf in the ocean too!
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November 28, 2014 at 7:52 am #37915Larry DobbsParticipant
Ok racers the rain is parting for our race day! Cold air means maximum horsepower! Let’s get out there and forget everything else and enjoy the purest form of motor racing, Karts ;)
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December 2, 2014 at 12:02 pm #38159Ray ChiappeParticipant
Thank you NCK! Sonoma is the best!
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December 2, 2014 at 3:19 pm #38172Doug RingParticipant
To those who skipped the race – you missed a great racing day. Yes, it did rain in the morning, and races 1 and 2 needed wet tires (no active rain, but the track was still damp), but after lunch the track was fully dry and fast – I think our (Super Stock 125) fastest lap was quicker than last year, when we ran in perfect weather.
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December 3, 2014 at 6:44 am #38208Larry DobbsParticipant
I have to agree with you Doug! Tony and Dean maintained a blistering pace in the Superkart final heat 1:40 and change is so fast I don’t know what to compare it to! Well done Roger, Mark, Jim and all the hard working folks who put on a fantastic event. Congrats to Rhonda who was presented the coveted Jeff Edwards award. Todd you are a lucky man!
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December 3, 2014 at 8:18 am #38212Michael LaGroneParticipant
I think our stock moto fastest lap this year was a 1:48.9…. me :-)
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December 3, 2014 at 9:16 am #38220Chris HegarParticipant
In 2012 MyLaps shows 1:46.5 as a fast lap for stock and I know we turned 1:44.5 with the ICC cars, a green track like you cats had always feels fast but it’s pretty tough to gather grip.
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December 3, 2014 at 12:22 pm #38238Michael LaGroneParticipant
1:46.5 Chris…. wow thats flying… good job. happy you did not show up..:-)
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December 3, 2014 at 2:57 pm #38289Chris HegarParticipant
I believe Maxipad set that drafting through a group. We were all within a tenth I think. Big front pack, that’s another reason you see a faster best time.
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