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    • #34753
      Robert DeGroff
      Participant

      Hello,

      I am still a KT100 newbie, but learning. When the engine is off and kart on stand, should the engine be turning when I spin the rear wheel by hand? Currently mine does. (I’m new to clutch karts) What I mean is I am unsure at what point the clutch should be engaging. I have a lot to learn on clutch engage point adjusting.

      I just put a L & T single disc wet clutch on a KT100. I used blue Loctite thread locker on the starter nut and torqued to the specified 25-pounds. Yet when I started on the stand 2-days later, the starter nut came off within 20-seconds. So now I am trying Loctite red as the manual says, but curious if I did something else wrong with installation. I followed the guide on the L & T website, but still new to this. Any advice appreciated.

       

      Thank you,

      Robert

    • #34782
      Ron Artinger
      Participant

      No, it should not spin the motor when off.  I had the same issue when I first moved to a KT100 and clutch.  If there is a a spacer, you may need to sand it down a bit – at least that is what was wrong in my case.  If the starter nut is coming off, check the bearing in the 3rd mount.  If it is not spinning freely then it can cause the starter nut to back out.  This ruined my race weekend a couple months back.

      Good luck!

      -Ron

    • #34783
      David Cole
      Keymaster

      Are you talking the engine or the clutch spin when you turn over the rear wheel? The clutch drum should spin with the chain/wheel, but the engine crank should stay in the same position if not running. If you spin the rear wheel, and you feel the force of the piston going up and down, then you have installed the clutch wrong and it is in direct drive.

      David Cole - EKN Managing Editor

    • #34786
      tony zambos
      Participant

      Robert,
      If the piston is traveling up and down when you turn the rear wheels, you do have some sort of clutch failure or the clutch is out of adjustment. Before you do anything, do you have the L&T tools to remove and service the clutch? The starting point with clutch slip should be around 6k and adjust towards a higher engagement RPM. Never start at 11K and turn to work your way downwards. All you’ll have that way is smoke. You should end up between 7.2 and 8.5k.
      For the clutch not turning freely, if this is a new clutch, there is the possibility that the adjustment screws are way off. If not a new clutch, disassemble the clutch and carefully measure everything as specified in the manual. Have found that the dog bones do wear and break. If you have a kart shop in your area, ask if they would help.
      As for the starter nut, check how far in the clutch goes on the crank shaft with and without the key in the shaft. Your key could be too large and not allowing the clutch to fit tightly on the shaft.
      Also, L&T has a phone and fax numbers plus email. I’d give them a call.
      Good Luck

      LAD Specialties customer / tony kart / rotax / kt100

    • #34947
      Walt Gifford
      Participant

      Installing the clutch and installing the seat, the 2 biggest pains in karting.

      Gif

      FAA certified jet engine and aircraft technician,
      Nicholson Speedway class champion 2001,
      Yamaha KT100 Service Center,
      41 years karting experience

    • #35063
      tony zambos
      Participant

      Robert,

      Any update?

      LAD Specialties customer / tony kart / rotax / kt100

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