May 13, 2015 at 10:42 am #48127David ColeKeymaster
An article from Autosport.com came out on Monday, discussing a new kart and series promoted by British Touring Car Championship squad Team BMR. The operation has developed their own front-engined, front wheel kart to train drivers to race in the road racing cars series. For 2016, they are looking to create their own championship series with three classes, including one aboard their own front engine karts and a solid prize package.
What are your thoughts on a front-wheel drive kart?
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May 13, 2015 at 11:20 am #48128johnny brooksParticipant
Looks like a four stroke in the picture…with those fat front tires I bet torque-steer’s a bitch!
Long steering column and rearward placement of driver means a whole new engineering model for frame flex….I wonder if inside rear lift will be the norm?
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May 13, 2015 at 11:44 am #48138Patrick RothParticipant
Kudos to them for dreaming it up and making it a reality! On the other hand I see it as just another “karting” novelty like a kart with a 1300cc Hyabusa motor strapped to it, or 10,000 ft-lbs worth of electric motors, or 2 person karts, or 4 engines, or 6 wheels, or hoverkarts… ;)
Not sure what they accomplished that couldn’t have been done by taking the body off of a small FWD car? I guess by shrinking it down to a kart size, they are able to race with other non-FWD karts… Not sure I buy that it really is that good for training as lift-off oversteer seems minor in trying to learn to race a car with a relatively large amount of suspension travel and mass when compared to a kart.
May 13, 2015 at 1:00 pm #48143TJ KoyenModerator
AH KILL IT WITH FIRE
So hideous. Karting’s got the worst case of “can’t leave well-enough alone”. New engines, series, rules etc. pop up every week. And then we get this thing…
It has no purpose. If these guys think anyone is going to move “up” from traditional karts to this jalopy, I would venture to guess they are wrong.
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May 13, 2015 at 5:00 pm #48159Walt GiffordParticipant
Ug the heat.
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May 14, 2015 at 7:43 am #48194Kelly ReadParticipant
BIG CREDIT goes out to these guys for there thoughts & engineering!!!!
The down falls I see here are:
1) Heat off the motor.
2) You hit something up front and you could ruin more then the kart (motor pkg.) let alone having the motor in your lap.
3) Steering. Unless they have the weight distribution right, better have strong arms.
4) Arrow. Going to catch some major drag. May not be bad on a sprint track??
Here in KART land, we have made some REAR engine “laydown” animal karts in the road race division that have done real well. The main object was to give the driver more compartment space especially those that are wide up in the shoulder area since the animal motor is much wider then most motors we currently race.
May 14, 2015 at 10:28 am #48210Greg LindahlParticipant
I like their construction/engineering ideas. Proof is in performance.
It’s very easy to poo-poo anything different. Anyone can do that. It takes independent confidence to try new ideas.
Maybe they’re training drivers for the new Nissan LMP1 car, set to race at Le Mans in a couple of weeks. Quite similar dynamics.
May 14, 2015 at 6:01 pm #48235Brian MeadParticipant
This isn’t new. fwd stuff was tried awhile back, rummage around the vintage sites.
Can I assume they at least hacked the rear axle in half, put on 2 more bearings and another brake on? Must be a shifter of some sort, don’t see any chain, and given the length of the steering column and all that wt up front, how’s about a bigger steering wheel? There’s a purpose for this I’m sure, though I’m at a loss as to what it is. Everyone else up to this point that moved from karts to cars seemed to do really swell, why go through all that? Is that grumpy guy that made solo karts over there still in the business? Betcha he could weld up some standard beauties at much less cost. Betcha.
May 14, 2015 at 8:36 pm #48236michael smithParticipant
May 15, 2015 at 12:16 pm #48291Mark LockettParticipant
NO!! Just no!!
May 20, 2015 at 8:42 am #48549James FrantzParticipant
Just what karting doesn’t need! Another class. Not to mention the expense.
May 27, 2015 at 4:41 am #48916Tim PappasParticipant
I am amazed and frankly disappointed that the karting world and for that matter, the whole racing world finds innovation so distasteful. Racing has become a completely boring “oneness, sameness, gotta just have what everyone haveness”. Creativity is not only frowned upon, it’s been mostly legislated out of racing. I am not saying this fwd kart is a good idea, time will tell. But I find the creativity refreshing.
Okay, you guys can close this thread now and go back to your green kart and on single make engine racing.
May 27, 2015 at 7:15 am #48947Greg WrightParticipant
I agree Mr. Tappas but this thing is a bit over the top and can’t be considered a kart with that front suspension.
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June 2, 2015 at 11:36 am #49218Roger RuthhartParticipant
It probably has better traction in the snow than rear wheel drive!
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