F 125 question on rules

[Jeff Metter]

Question… is a Superkart with the rear wing removed and a 125cc bolted on legal to run in F125. WKA rules ??

 

Trying to figure out what to run this year.. Thanks

[Robert Lawson]

Jeff,

A Superkart chassis with a 125 is absolutely legal per WKA rules for F-125.

You do not need to remove the wing or change the kart at all from the 250 configuration if you do not wish to.

Thought you ran off out of the Country???? If so, glad your back!

RPM

[johnny brooks]

Robert, where are you reading this rule?

2014 WKA TM rule 310.4 allows IC/E karts to run in Unlimited class.

WKA’s F125 class is a ‘laydown’ class running 45 minutes. I don’t think an IC/E will fit the dimensional requirements…ie. maximum 50″ width and 26″ height.

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[Jeremy Baldi]

Jeff,

If you actually read the rules it seems to say that a superkart based on CIK guidelines is legal in unlimited (wings, large driver fairing and center gastank and all) but it doesn’t really say that it is legal in f-125 or not. Since f-125 race in unlimited 2 on sundays I would think any unlimited rules should apply to f-125 other than the engine regs. I’ve always been confused on how that rule is written.

Having said that there have been guys that have run them in f-125 without any problems and as a f-125 competitor I would say bolt on a 125 and come on out.  We would love you to race with us.

Jeremy Baldi

[Jeff Metter]

Thanks for the response and the insight guys, I appreciate it !! Hope to be back on track SOON !!

[Robert Lawson]

Johnny,

These karts have been entering and running in the F-125 class for countless years now. Local, regional or national…..doesn’t matter. I have yet to see at any event a “125 SK” be disallowed in pre tech or disqualified in post tech.

We have miles of VHS tape covering many many years of these karts racing with us.

F-125 was also known as: 80/125 enduro, B-Ltd., 125 gearbox, and at one point was included in WKA’s “Open” class.

Dimentionally, your right.

I mentioned a similar problem in the 250 forum before Daytona. IF there is ever an issuse reguarding “legality” of any kind with a driver or kart it is never addressed or caught until AFTER a race has been run. Once you get to that point no one wants to make an issue or hurt feelings….”whats done, is done!” Unfortunately this is how things get lost in the process and people just look the otherway out of habit.

Didn’t mean to turn this into a history class but sometimes things are not what they seem from a rule book standpoint. These karts should be written in to all the rule books so there is no question in the future.

RPM

[Jeremy Baldi]

I 100% agree with Robert. 125 super karts have always run in what ever the 125 enduro class has been. They should be written into the f-125 class.

Under the current rules it says f-125 is a laydown class so you have to be max 50″ wide (some superkarts chassis might fit), 26″ tall (without a really tall seat most superkarts would be okay), at least 6″ of body work clearance around steering wheels and legs (some superkarts fairings are to close or large for this rule) and the gas tank most be between wheels not a center one (many superkarts have center gas tanks). So you could make a superkart legal under even under the lay down rules. But I would love to see a CIK legal superkart legal in the f-125 class without having to worry about the rules above.

I’m sure any f-125 would agree with me. We would love to have as many karts in our class as possible. Whether they be laydown, superkarts or some other 125 enduro kart. There are lots of old zip superkarts out there that I would love to see people put a 125 on and come race with us.

AKRA, WKA or CES or any other org. Hope you read this and make sure you adjust the rules to make superkarts legal in f-125 without any questions.

Jeremy Baldi

[Jeff Metter]

Reason I was asking.. I bought a super rok..then they decided to not race them in the rok cup..I bought a 125 icc..now they only race stick hondas..I bought a 250’gasgas unless I run with the twins… fine print illigalities not legal which is why I was not at daytona…I just dont want to build a 125 that people will complain about or not be legal…jeeeeze I have not had much luck…I am building up a twin as well…just in case..Hope to see you guys out there soon. Thanks again

[Larry Stewart]

Are you coming to Savannah in March?

You know none of us are going to complain about your Gas Gas. Just come and have fun.

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