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    • #49854
      David Cole
      Keymaster

      Here is the latest column, and we are asking for the racers to give us back their input on what they consider to be the Triple Crown of karting.

      ekartingnews.com/2015/06/15/behind-the-laptop-the-karting-triple-crown

      David Cole - EKN Managing Editor

    • #49880
      Roger Ruthhart
      Participant

      At one point SKUSA (during it’s Jim Murley days) ran a Triple Crown of Karting, although I don’t remember the exact name. It featured a sprint race, long track enduro event and street race, which the Rock Island Grand Prix was honored to host. This would have been probably around 2000. Rob Howden and some others surely can remember more details than I, but that format certainly provided a unique challenge.

       

    • #49948
      Trey Shannon
      Participant

      That Daytona triple idea sounds awesome. No way I could afford to do something like that, but if somebody’s crazy enough to fund it and get me some practice time on a road course, I’m crazy enough to do it.

    • #49949
      David Cole
      Keymaster

      Practice time on the road course, haven’t you had enough practice going 24 hours there Trey? :)

      David Cole - EKN Managing Editor

    • #49955
      Trey Shannon
      Participant

      Haha good call DC. I mean on a BIG road course. Sprint I’m good to go, dirt I’ll be good to go after a couple sessions (hopefully), but would need a little testing on a road course.

    • #49956
      David Cole
      Keymaster

      The Road Racing portion is the easy part to get adjusted to. The majority of the lap is going full gas. You do however need to get through the four infield corners smooth, or you lose the draft.

      David Cole - EKN Managing Editor

    • #49957
      Trey Shannon
      Participant

      Would be a fun challenge for sure. Definitely willing to have a go at the triple if somebody is willing to back it.

      Would need to get the required road race licence from WKA as well I’m sure.

    • #49964
      David Cole
      Keymaster

      WKA license is no issue with your experience. You just have to purchase it.

      What classes would you try to do them in?

      David Cole - EKN Managing Editor

    • #49970
      Trey Shannon
      Participant

      Depends on how the three schedules fall together and which teams are willing to support.

      ManCup: Yamaha, Leopard or X30

      RoadRace: Any of the Yamaha, TaG, or Animal classes

      Dirt: Any clone or champ class that fits the scheduling

    • #50008
      Trey Shannon
      Participant

      David, back when WKA did the North American Karting Championships at Charlotte Motor Speedway (early 2000s), did anybody do the triple there? I know Travis Firing and a couple other guys ran Gold Cup and the Briggs and Stratton 300. Do you know of anybody that tried to do all three, Gold Cup, 300, and Road Race? Tod Miller maybe?

    • #50009
      David Cole
      Keymaster

      As far as I can remember, I don’t believe so. I’ll ask Randy Kugler this weekend at USPKS event.

      David Cole - EKN Managing Editor

    • #50019
      Dan Breuer
      Participant

      The challenge isn’t  just running them- you have to win them!  Jack Hewitt- only driver to win all 4 divisions of the 4 crown nationals at Eldora on the same day.

    • #50031
      David Cole
      Keymaster

      Great point Dan. I think first however, we need to see if someone can even pull it off. Just racing in all three events is a challenge enough. If the schedules align, the right programs come together. Then maybe after a couple attempts, we can begin asking, “Who can WIN at all three WKA Daytona KartWeek events?”

      If we went for a Grand Slam, we could throw in a pavement oval race as well. I’m sure there is a parking lot area to build another oval at DIS ;)

      David Cole - EKN Managing Editor

    • #50048
      Trey Shannon
      Participant

      Winning all three would be unreal. I don’t think I can name a single current kart driver who has the skill in all three disciplines to pull that off. Maybe Mark Dismore, Lake Speed, or Tod Miller in their primes. I’d be shocked if there’s anybody today versatile enough to pull off winning all three in the same weekend.

      Like you said, it would be really cool just to see somebody figure out a way to race in all three, and then actually do it. Even a podium in two of the three would be pretty amazing. Either way, it’s a loooooooong weekend.

    • #50055
      Nick Tucker
      Participant

      I think pre 2005 you could say winning IKF Grandnational Championships in sprint, speedway and road race would be a prestigious triple crown. Not sure how many people have accomplished this but I’m sure it’s not a huge list. In the late 90’s there was an event held a willow springs called the iron man that ran the sprint track, big willow and the streets of willow. This event was really cool but probably didn’t carry no where near the prestige of the IKF nationals. Also in the late 90’s you had the WKA Constructors Cup which was a true National Touring series along with the creation of the SKUSA Pro Moto tour in 99.

      I look at karting today and you have the SKUSA pro tour and Rotax US open as the National touring series but other then that it seems like the rest of the events are glorified regional events. The Daytona triple would be cool to attempt.

    • #50063
      Dan Breuer
      Participant

      I didn’t say it would be easy! But you are correct, it would be an accomplishment to just run decent in all three Daytona events…. But I have to vote for Mr. Tucker- really think he could put up a realistic shot to win in all (only question would be on the road race, haven’t seen him in that venue). Won SKUSA, watched him win in a tough field of dirt karts (winged mini outlaws, shows he can get around that area as well). Let me know if you need a hand Nick, really think you should give it a shot.

      • #50228
        Bernie Baldus
        Participant

        Lynn Haddock has won multiple IKF duffy’s in all 3 catagories.

        I think those came in different years, but he is listed as an IKF Expert in Road Race, Sprint and Dirt.

    • #50302
      Nick Tucker
      Participant

      Well I know Colin Fleming and myself won all three divisions (road race, sprint and speedway) as juniors. Beyond Lynn Haddock I’m not sure of anyone else.

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