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    • #7180
      JT TT
      Blocked

      Had my axle move twice during my last outing.  It moved part way through the day to the point the rotor face was contacting the inside face of the caliper and dragging.  Got out the allen wrenches and put things back where they belonged, then it move again, albeit, much less.  I didn’t notice the second movement until the kart was on the stand Monday night.

       

      My question is how tight should I be torquing the bearing set screws on the axle.  Is this an item to check every single run?  I did about 75 laps over about 8 sessions that day.

    • #7181
      Ray Lovestead
      Participant

      Been there and done that a number of times.  Totally solved it.  Tighten it.

      (hehe)

      Seriously though.  What I like to do is, make sure I’m using the same indentions from the previous use, tighten it down really really good, use lock-tight, and voila..  presto.

      The next time you have to remove the axle, clean the spot with a file and then when you re-assemble, hit the same exact spot again, and tighten, tighten, tighten, with lock-tight.

      Done.  Don’t be afraid to indent the axle, in fact, it helps keep it in place.

      Ray

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    • #7191
      tony zambos
      Participant

      Depends on the type of axle, thin wall or thick. For a thick walled axle, position the axle where you want it, remove the grub screws from the axle bearing on one side of the kart. My preference would be the brake side. Drill the axle through the grub screw holes and run a tap that is the same size as the grub screw, through the axle bearing and into the axle. Get longer grub screws and Loctite them in. On the other hand, for a thin walled axle, use a locking collar on both sides of one of the axle bearings.

       

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    • #7215
      Matt Dixon
      Participant

      Replace your set screws

      94y

    • #7335
      Rick Brown
      Participant

      Clean the axle with some brake cleaner, lock tight the set screws and check them everytime out and you’ll be good!

    • #7364
      JT TT
      Blocked

      I tightened them a lot tighter than I was comfortable doing w/ a 3/8 drive ratchet and they didn’t go anywhere after about 60 laps so I guess that’s not bad.

    • #7388
      Tim Koyen
      Participant

      They do need to be tightened well.  When I was really into changing axles a lot, I used to strip out an allen wrench from time to time, but it kept them from moving.  I did the Loctite thing for awhile as well, but eventually I just got them tight and didn’t need to mess with it.

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    • #7397
      Matt Dixon
      Participant

      Two wraps with electrical tape over the set screws is all you need to keep them from backing out, then no problems removing them when changing axles.

      94y

    • #7403
      Martin Colligan
      Participant

      Prices of set screws are worth changing them when in doubt … I also use axle collars and this helps a lot …

       

    • #8397
      Roberto Perez
      Participant

      Just a side note,  Axle moving would also cause your chain to de disaligned and possible damage to your clutch….

       

       

    • #9463
      John Savage
      Participant

      Axle Locking Collars, work great just fit them and you will have no more problems with your axle moving

       

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    • #9475
      Greg Dzielinski
      Participant

      Get rid of the bearing set screws and use steel axel lock collars.

    • #10826
      John Gay
      Participant

      My axle was shifting during this past race weekend and while doing so, it was tighening up my chain to the point where there was absolutely no slack in it.    My kart’s handling was also all over the place too.   The Ny-lock nuts I put on at the start of the season and were unable to keep hold.  I replaced all 6 nuts and also instead of regular washers, I’m using lock washers as well-  got them nice & tight and the problem has not re-occured.

       

    • #11324
      Jason Bane
      Participant

      I never felt comfortable getting the set screws that tight, always thought that it couldn’t be good for the axle.  Use axle collars, they work great. Next time you replace a bearing, look into SKF Concentra bearings. They are pricey, but worth it in my opinion. No more set screws to mark up the axle, and when it’s cleaned with brake cleaner and properly installed it will not move. I only have 2, and I use a regular bearing in the middle.

    • #11830
      Colm O’Higgins
      Participant

      Yep, SKF ConCenta bearings solve this issue and are available in various seal types.  Also see the installation video on u Tube.

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