Any reviews on FRIXA Ven05 disc and pads ?

[Martin Colligan]

Have some of you tried the FRIXA disc and pads ?

http://www.accelerationkarting.com/frixaven05rearbrakerotor-steel.aspx

Any comments are appreciated !

 

Thanks !

[Matt Dixon]

Dont waste your time. If they get hot they fail.

94y

[Patrick Roth]

Matt Dixon wrote:

Dont waste your time. If they get hot they fail.

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<div class=”bbp-reply-signature”>94y Energy Corse/SwedeTech</div>

Matt,  Have you actually tried them?  It sure doesn’t sound like much of a review and given that these are relatively new to the market, what was your experience?  This would be very valuable to those that are considering making a purchase.  Thanks!

[Matt Dixon]

Yes we have. They failed after 12 laps. They got worse and worse every corner until they were so glazed they did nothing.

Put in factory pads and didn’t change a thing on the kart or driving style and went on to run the 25 lap main without issue.

94y

[Martin Colligan]

Did you guys use the Frixa pads also ?

 

[Matt Dixon]

Pads only did not process the orignal post completely

94y

[Martin Colligan]

So you did not try the Disc in combination with the pads ? Sorry i’m a bit confused ….

 

[Matt Dixon]

No disc only pads, but steel is steel. I don’t know if the link works this forum still has a lot of bugs

94y

[Matt Dixon]

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94y

[Patrick Roth]

Uhh… okay…

Anyone use the combination of Frixa pads and a Frixa disc?  Obviously based on Matt’s experience they aren’t a good pad only replacement.

[Walt Gifford]

lol, I like the ad. I guess British gray iron is better than Italian iron (which is also gray like all iron).

So how does that work, do these special pads absorb lots of heat so the light weight rotor doesn’t warp? That would explain why they glaze over and stop working in 12 laps.

FAA certified jet engine and aircraft technician,
Nicholson Speedway class champion 2001,
Yamaha KT100 Service Center,
41 years karting experience

[Patrick Roth]

I’m going to get the pad and rotor and gives these a shot.  I have not been that impressed with the VEN05 ceramics in terms of price and cracking and the VEN05 iron/steel eats pads for breakfast.  Based on what I know about brakes I’m actually quite optimistic enough to give the Frixa a try.

Personally, I think the VEN05 iron/steel rotors are bulky and eat pads due to the large amount of heat they retain.  I hope the Frixa design extracts the heat better.

 

[Matt Dixon]

Good luck with that Pat. It was the worst $30 I ever saved!

94y

[Martin Colligan]

Keep us posted man !!

 

[Vic Eacott]

Hi to Martin Colligan, Patrick Roth, Watt Gifford and especially Matt Dixon.

I have read your article Matt with greatest of detail and ask you one question…….Where on earth did you buy our brake pads for 30.00 USD, it is impossible to buy them at that price and secondly, I love the way you went into the barriers blaming the pads – a professional never blames his tools Matt.

Education in brake pads – I bet you NEVER read the running in procedures inside the box or, did your mechanic just ‘stuff’ the pads in the caliper and never informed you to ‘run the pad material’ in??? Every professional racer knows, new materials (like your engines) have to have running in time.

The rotors……….are made from PRIME grey iron that have the same composition as our Euroseries Formula 3 rotors (our Parent company HANKOOK TIRE supplies the tires to this race series which is ran in tandem with the German Touring Cars – DTM) so, they are race proven (5 years) materials and as to the brake pads. Ask you ‘fellow’ USA kart racer about Frixa brake pad material, his name is Danny Formal.

So my dear friend Matt – you’ve no right to blame the pad material glazing…….or overheating UNLESS you just ignored the instructions and thought you knew better than the manufacturers ? http://www.frixa.org

The 2 Italian kart Manufacturers, Maranello and Zanardi (Tom Joyner – Lance Stroll) ask them about their experiences of Frixa……..didn’t Tom win the World Champs just recently??

Thank you guys……….

 

[Matt Dixon]

Very sorry Vic

i only posted what my experience was.

Broke them in as always do, put them in at begining of event. Continued to fade until there was no brake left, very glazed when removed. All facts.

Replaced with oem and worked like normal for the life of the pad. Again fact.

Didn’t buy for $30, but they were less then oem

just my opinion, sorry.

94y

[Vic Eacott]

Thanks for your input Matt, great to hear from you……… I am not making any excuses for our  pads but never before, I have heard that a racer that followed OUR running in procedure  / instructions and managed to overheat the pad material OR………… did you do ‘Matt Dixons” running in procedures……pump the pedal a few times until you felt the brake working?.

You said in your statement to the other guys on here (quote) ” Didn’t buy for $30, but they were less then oem………. and now you’re telling me that the FRIXA pads, you didn’t know how much you paid ????????

Matt Dixon
Good luck with that Pat. It was the worst $30 I ever saved!

Let me take you here for a minute please………  http://www.frixa.org/technical

Let me help you out………… It is for FREE, No charge !!

Your pads (no matter what BRAND) will last longer too………

Vic

[Matt Dixon]

Vic do you not think you would be doing a better service to you company by asking Patrick how your product worked out for him? Start getting the positive reviews flowing instead of continuing to address me and ask me to post more of my negative experience with your product?

Never said I paid $30, your pads were cheaper close to $30 cheaper. I don’t remember how much I paid for that stale loaf of bread last year either.

Thanks for the read, it will be interesting to see if it will make my oem pads even longer then they already do.

So once again, get the positive reviews flowing and I will continue to support my shop/dealer and everyone can move forward.

94y

[Patrick Roth]

My sincere apologies for not posting my experience sooner… please don’t hurt me… ;)

Anyway, due to bad luck and other excuses (none brake related), I probably only got 2 days of practice and 2 club races on my Frixa setup.  My experience with the Frixa rotor and pad combo has been AWESOME!!!  They do take a good warm up lap to get going (first braking from high speed will make your “cheeks” pucker) but once warmed up they are fantastic!  They feel exactly the way I want the brakes to feel in that they are super consistent and the pedal feel is very predictable.  They feel almost identical to the ceramic VEN05 brakes.

Unfortunately I am moving to a shifter so I will be selling my Frixa setup.  If Frixa were an option on the shifter, I would seriously consider choosing it over the ceramics due to price and my experience with my TaG setup.

Disclaimer:  The next few comments may be complete garbage but they were an impression that I had that I really liked.  I liked that the pads did not “grab” the rotor when applying pressure.  Given plenty of pressure you could lock the brake just like any other setup; however, this felt like the locking point was more predictable and had a wider band.  This made me feel like I could trail brake more comfortably into the turn.  Once again, I could be smoking something but it sure felt good…

[Brian Degulis]

Hi Mat

I’m sorry you had such a terrible experience with our product. I’m glad you weren’t hurt!!!! I wish you would have contacted me directly so we could have worked together to solve the problem. I think the mostly likely cause of the problem was improper installation and run in. I’ll gladly send you a replacement set at no charge but this time I’ll ask you to precisely follow the installation and run in instructions supplied with the pads. I think you’ll find our pads to be superior to OEM and as you mentioned you’ll save a little money also.

Sincerely

The way it should have been handled.

[Mike Peltier]

Brian,

As far as your product goes..all I can say is WOW!!!! I put a set a pads in at the begining of our season in April and ran the entire season 1o full weekends, heat races, mains and practice on the same set !!!! I went on to win the ROK GP Championship here in Canada and I can tell you I wish I had brought a set with me when I competed in the ROK Cup World Finals this past October in Italy. After racing all year on them and then going to ceramic..you can sure tell the difference and I know what I like and will be sticking with FRIXA pads for the upcoming season. The key is the proper break in procedure.

If your looking for someone to promote your product based on experinence let me know.

Take care,

Mike

 

[Martin Colligan]

Well I started this thread to see if any of you used the Disc and Pads combo … seems like people are buying the pads only.

The lighter rotor is what i’m interested in …

Any plans of having the front disc and pads available also ?

 

Thanks !

[Patrick Roth]

Martin,

FYI, I did buy both the disc and the pads as I was interested in the rotor as well.  See my comments above…

[Walt Gifford]

Why can’t you use the frixa rotor with crg pads?

Gif

FAA certified jet engine and aircraft technician,
Nicholson Speedway class champion 2001,
Yamaha KT100 Service Center,
41 years karting experience

[Vic Eacott]

Patrick Roth wrote:

I’m going to get the pad and rotor and gives these a shot. I have not been that impressed with the VEN05 ceramics in terms of price and cracking and the VEN05 iron/steel eats pads for breakfast. Based on what I know about brakes I’m actually quite optimistic enough to give the Frixa a try. Personally, I think the VEN05 iron/steel rotors are bulky and eat pads due to the large amount of heat they retain. I hope the Frixa design extracts the heat better.

[Vic Eacott]

Dear Patrick – PLEASE HOLD the axle immediately either side of the caliper as soon as you come into parc ferm or the pit area. There is no transmission of excessive heat that is transmitting through to the bearings, hubs and the left rear tire (pushing the tire pressure up 1 bar) The caliper – with safety in mind, you can touch this too without ripping your skin off……..the brake fluid temperature has only a slight increase of temperature too……Like all NEW products, take 4 or 5 minutes to run these in ‘Thermally condition the products” before you let fly…..I GUARANTEE THE PADS AND ROTOR COMBINATION will give you great braking performance. The pad material and the disc composition are compatible unlike any other pad material / brake disc metals……. WE KNOW what goes into making these products because WE manufacturer both ! GOOD LUCK Patrick. Join my facebook – Vic Eacott

[Vic Eacott]

Martin Colligan wrote:

Keep us posted man !!

 

Matt – Don’t you run with Buddy Rice………..or used to ???

I’m getting a lot of feedback about you and Buddy Rice karting, just wondering if I have the right information??

[Vic Eacott]

Brian Degulis wrote:

Hi Mat I’m sorry you had such a terrible experience with our product. I’m glad you weren’t hurt!!!! I wish you would have contacted me directly so we could have worked together to solve the problem. I think the mostly likely cause of the problem was improper installation and run in. I’ll gladly send you a replacement set at no charge but this time I’ll ask you to precisely follow the installation and run in instructions supplied with the pads. I think you’ll find our pads to be superior to OEM and as you mentioned you’ll save a little money also. Sincerely The way it should have been handled.

 

Don’t agree with your ‘pussy footing’ ……… It was handled the best way as it was said by Matt.

[Vic Eacott]

F Y I – Frixa manufactures KZ FRONT PADS for CRG platform and DISCS too.

For all of you, with respect to the metal composition of the brake discs are brought from the F3 single seater race series into the karting world, so you are ‘running with race proven materials’

British grey iron, there are many compositions of this metal, we have a patent on this particular composition.

All our certificates of Manufacturing, ISO, Patents can be seen by anyone – we do not hide away our achievements.

http://www.frixa.org/about-us

Please find these types of certificates on the CRG / Tony Kart / Maranello / Zanardi etc etc websites………There are none, because they do not manufacture these components.

Frixa also makes brakes for BREMBO – AP RACING etc etc and badges their names upon each component.

So, whatever FRIXA race product people buy, they are purchasing genuine race proven materials.

Thank you guys……….

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[Eduardo]

The kart breaks better than the Ceramics, they dont get hot, they are light with the advantage of steel in wet conditions, it works the best with Frixa pads.

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