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TJ Koyen
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I’m still not sure I’m fully understanding what you’re saying Paul.

So you’re saying that after turn-in (some point between turn-in and apex), because of how your traction is redistributed, you can go faster than you can on turn-in? So you’re saying you can speed up after you brake and turn-in? This is obvious. This is acceleration. You keep saying there’s a point in-between decel and accel where you can roll more speed than your entry speed. The only way to roll more speed is to accelerate. You can’t speed up without accelerating. What you’re describing is the acceleration part of the corner. It isn’t a matter of magic happening, it’s good drivers correctly ENTERING a corner so they can get on the gas EARLIER than everyone else and carry more speed off the corner. There isn’t a magical increase in rolling speed.

You say, “the end of deceleration and the beginning of acceleration do not have to be an instant thing”. But they SHOULD be if you’re charging the corner on the edge or limit. I don’t mean to say that you should just stomp on the throttle, of course you should roll back into the throttle smoothly but firmly.

I think what we’re getting down to ultimately is that there are some drivers who can just feel where that traction limit is and they are able to time perfectly when to brake, when to release the brake and start rolling back into the throttle, and how to coordinate that with steering input to hover on the knife-edge of ultimate grip. It isn’t magic though. It’s the driver feeling all four corners of the vehicle. I’m not the ultimate driver by any means, but I can totally feel the grip of each tire and how it’s being distributed through the corner. Drivers who give good handling feedback are good at this.

If you pay attention while driving and practice a lot, eventually you’ll be able to feel the grip levels in the front tires through your hands on the wheel and you’ll be able to feel the grip of the rear tires through your shoulders and back in the seat. You can actually feel the load of the tires gripping through your body and if you’re in tune with your machine, you can maintain a constant load on the kart and tires and keep that load measured through the forces you feel on your body.

That got a tad spiritual almost… Maybe there is some sort of magic to it. There’s a whole other discussion on being “in the zone” and driving subconsciously. Some of this might fall into that.

Thanks for making us think Paul. Maybe your point isn’t coming across totally clear and some people have gotten frustrated but it’s good to have a multi-page massive discussion about something nearly intangible now and then. It keeps everyone on their toes.

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