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Richard talbert

FYI, Honda makes a run of 1999 and 2001 “parts” only when required by us folks in the US. At SOME point that flow will stop. We, collectively don’t know when. It’s nearly 20 years old, they don’t make it anymore, or put it in anything. I assume Kawasaki, Suzuki, Yamaha, etc. are all in the same boat..it’s all 4 strokes. Remember 2 cycles keep karting costs in check. They are extremely simple things. Of course you have the Briggs Animal/LO206, but that’s another whole story all together. I can bring you up to date on those too at Summit. We have two of them. The current batch of KZ motors seem like the future, and they are purpose built just for karts. A little pricey, but ever nice motors. There is also talk of the new 175 cc IAME motor starting here in the US. Likely more HP due to the increase in cc’s with less mods. Kind of like a big block X30 with a gear box. It would make a really great reliable ride. Bike manufacturers don’t care about karts. We run 2 strokes, they build 4 strokes. There is no incentive at all for them to get involved. They likely sell more 250cc 4 stroke dirt bikes in a few days, then all the 99 CR125 kit motors in a few years. Just sayen’. I think you mentioned the Tag package being about 3000, they’re actually closer to 4000. Car stuff. My Son ran the Skip Barber Formula Dodge Eastern Series back in 97. We budgeted 3K per three day event, with a 8 event season. Run the numbers..that was a killer. Sold all our kart stuff and a home equity loan. Plus the three day competition school and a lapping day required prior to running the series. Well, I just did a real quick check, ready.. double that today!! For us, that was a once in a life time experience for our whole family. Anyway, I suspect you’d like to get involved in kart racing at some level. I would strongly suggest you attend a few events with the Woodbridge Kart Club, the Sandy Hook Kart track in Street Maryland, and Nicholson Kart Club in Chestertown Maryland. I think a bunch of your questions will be answered. And you’ll get to see what is actually going on and why. We all would like karting to be a big deal, but it’s just not. We race go-karts. I like to ask, how much do you know about Formula ford, how about quarter midgets, or full size midgets for that matter? Or dirt modifieds, late models? How about Chump cars, Show Room Stock classes? Hill climbs, solo one, alcohol drag cars, etc, etc. Everybody wants to get the big sponsor for their series. Everybody wants to be on TV. But the truth is, we race go-karts. They’re great, and we all have a blast doing it. And really, that’s all that matters. You spend as much as you can afford and no more. Have fun, Clark Sr…back to PS4, Gran Turismo Sport. Got other kart racers waiting for me.

Thanks for responding again Clark,

First, let me start by saying I’m no expert by any means!

And, since we are all being up front here and from what your saying; my fate is forever set as being a poor man trying to beat a rich man at a millionaires sport! Let’s not lie here, 80% of us want to be a Semi-pro race car drivers, 15% of us want to be both race car drivers and karters and 5% of us just want to race karts(Please correct me if I’m wrong). We don’t sacrifice x amount of dollars for fun. We sacrifice x amount of dollars for the passion of the sport; which will never die!

If you paid attention to my posts there are directed to the Pro series. Like Dan said ” The reason they do this in Motocross is to sell more cycles”. If X kart wins the most, the lower levels will buy X kart/products because it wins. Sticking to X engine is taking away from the competiveness of the sport.(Lets all just race Margay karts) Like I said: find another way to equal the racing other then weight ballasts(people have been running Yamaha/Honda/Rotax/Leopard for years).

Again, three sponsors are better then one. Like you see in auto racing: one main tire brand and multiple governed engine makes! I seen on Ekarting News that Honda HPD is sponsoring the S1 champ to formula 4 for X. I think they see something but are waiting for us to set aside X. Karting is a grass root and we will always be at the bottom of the ladder. In order to get to X you need to go through karting.

As for those new kz engines, karting has always showed a trend. This being, X engine is to fast, so lets stick to Y to get to Z and then Y becomes mc squared!(All of this from watching races at sandy hook and years of YouTube videos)

Champ car/WRL, $1,500 for 4 1hr and 1/2 stints at Cota, $500 deposit; give me X please!

I guess I’ll just stick to Live for Speed and race Formula BMW @ Blackwood for the rest of my life!

I would like to wish clean racing to all and I will keep you posted on talking to Honda and X bike makes.