'Turbo' in MiniMax

[John West]

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Scott, Rotax mini max has a "Spec Gear" and always has had... [/quote]

Jim,
Actually – when we first got into Minimax it was open gear. At some tracks, the Minimax were faster than the Juniors – which was crazy. They put in the spec gear to slow them down – and inadvertently they created the “Turbo” problem.
John
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[Tony Tesoro]

WOW....This must be a hot topic Mr. West is in the building and comented.

[jim rogero]

[Tony Tesoro]

There has been alot of evolution to the mini max package, not only was the gear open but the original weight was only 235 or 245 and you had to run yhc bridgestones and the min jet was 155.

[Mark Spikes]

The spec gear we have in the MM class (13/82) hardly slows them down much - 1 or 2 seconds, at most, in a 40 second lap. 1 or 2 seconds spread out over multiple corners (where accidents typically happen) is hardly conducive to creating "space" for eye/hand reactions.

What the spec gear does do, unless coincidentally matched to the track, is create random speed differences - namely bogs and turbo. It is these speed "hicups", that are random/unexpected and mismatched to the field, that can create accidents.


MVHO,

mark

[jim rogero]

[David Thompson]

The mini max deal is completely out of hand. Its the only rotax class I currently participate in, so I can't speak for any of the other class's, but I assume its more of the same.

I fully expect to get beat as far as horsepower, compared to guys like stroll, did anyone notice who the kids tuner was in ocala? Mike Wilson for anyone not paying attention. And Jordan Perry still looked much better through the infield, hell we were faster than stroll through the infield. The thing looked like Mr. Plow if you ask me. Did I mention the kid completely cut the track, skipped turn two, and passed Jordan in the process and still didn't get penalized. Must be nice.

Ok, so I guess my point is, its more certain people that think they're Roger Penske who screw things up for the rest of us looking for an even playing field. I would say 95% of the mini max's are pretty close, but when you buy 100 motors and mix and match all the best parts, what do you expect?

Anyone who knows me, and who I work for, knows we put in the time and money to be able to compete. I don't want to hear, oh your go kart was to tight. What does that have to do with us beating these guys off the corner, and down the first half the straightaway, and then having 2 guys blow by you from 5 cars back at the very end of the straightaway, rant over.

[angus hunt]

we're having a blast in rotax juniors! had our first race this weekend, even came away with a second! not bad for our first time out. so glad to be out of minimax!

if anyone needs a set of restrictors, let me know. won't be using them anymore
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[Rick Sweeting]

[angus hunt]

ha ha rick! if nick would stay away from the duct tape, i'd know what gear to use!

by the next race, i'll have a lift stand so i can actually change the gear when needed. man that kart is heavy!
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[Barry Hastings]

top fuel dragsters were getting to fast and blowing up far to often so the rule makers changed rules. By doing so they had the racers re focus their efforts into narrower channels. 80% nitro, dont have to worry about the fuel. Spec pulleys on the blower, ok. Spec gear ratio, figure how to work around that. The end reslutls of trying to slow them down with rules, they are going faster.

Formula one, smaller wings, much less add on aero pieces, going to save money improve passing and slow down the cars.... Practice for Spa, the announcer said they are making more downforce now than they did before the rules change. Testing ban, gonna try some weird stuff at the practice days, or bolt some camreras on and do some "promotional camera shoot driving" oh yeah its on the latest and greatest car we made. dont mind all those other cars we have spare sitting letting some kids have the job of dusting them fool you, this is the only car we could run.

My point is, spec the gear, spec this, spec that, racers being racers will do anything to find an advantage over the compitition. Spec something else and we as a group will find a way to find an advantage, and complain when someone figures it out before us.

When everybody else is maxed at 10, we want to go to 11.

[Chad Stapleton]

"Spec" rules are more about controlling costs than reducing speed.
It simply prevents people wasting time and money on needless equipment and areas.
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"Those of you who think you know everything are annoying to those of us who do !!"

[J.G. Sikes]

Barry Hastings wrote: :When everybody else is maxed at 10, we want to go to 11."

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EbVKWCpNFhY


Jeff

[John Wehrheim]

Now that is funny. Good one Jeff

[Tim Pappas]