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Brian Seward
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 Posted: Wed Mar 04, 2009 6:50 pm Post subject: Tony Kart Chassis Identification |
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I have a Tony Kart that I believe is an EVXX but the tag on the chassis only says "Racer". Ther serial number is AR84575. Does anyone know for sure what this means?
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Ryon Beachner
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| Posted: Wed Mar 04, 2009 9:56 pm Post subject: Re: Tony Kart Chassis Identification |
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| Brian Seward wrote: | I have a Tony Kart that I believe is an EVXX but the tag on the chassis only says "Racer". Ther serial number is AR84575. Does anyone know for sure what this means?
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Brian,
The chassis you have is a Racer EVXX. The serial numbers for the Racer models pre-2009 is AR, or AK for the Krypton models . The third digit in the serial is the year the chassis was produced. So the Racer EVX serials are all "AR7####" and the Racer EVXX is "AR8####"
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Oscar Biondi
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| Posted: Mon Dec 03, 2012 9:58 am Post subject: |
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Sorry to bring this up from the dead but I have a relevant question. I found a Tony Kart Racer chassis for sale locally and the seller claims it is a 2008. The chassis serial is AY8xxxxx. I have an 07 EVX Racer with serial AR7xxxxx and an 08 Krypton with serial AK8xxxxx.
Is that chassis really an 08? What does the Y stand for? The serial number plate shows it has 08 homologation. It also has a floor pan with a decal that says Racer EVS.
Any info would be greatly appreciated. Thanks!
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Ryon Beachner
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| Posted: Wed Dec 05, 2012 12:31 pm Post subject: |
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| Oscar Biondi wrote: | Sorry to bring this up from the dead but I have a relevant question. I found a Tony Kart Racer chassis for sale locally and the seller claims it is a 2008. The chassis serial is AY8xxxxx. I have an 07 EVX Racer with serial AR7xxxxx and an 08 Krypton with serial AK8xxxxx.
Is that chassis really an 08? What does the Y stand for? The serial number plate shows it has 08 homologation. It also has a floor pan with a decal that says Racer EVS.
Any info would be greatly appreciated. Thanks!
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Oscar, for whatever reason the serial numbers were only AR#/AK# for 2007 and 2008. While 2009 Racer (EVRR) were all AY9's, then the format changed again for Model Year 2011. So the serial will identify the chassis in some cases, however not all.
What you're looking at is not a 2008 but a 2006. Easy ways to tell a 2008 Tony Kart from anything earlier is to check the castor pills. If they are the 20 position pills, the kart is a 2008 or newer, if it has the 4 hole pills, it is a 2007 or earlier.
However what you have described is very typical. The seller sees the 53/CH/08 lasered and immediately thinks it's the date the kart was produced, however it's actually the homologation tag.
Homologation tags work like this;
53/CH/08
53 = 53rd chassis homologated for that homologation period.
CH = Type of homologation, CH specifies chassis, whereas brake systems would say ##/FR/Year (Frein = Brake in French) etc..
08 = The expiry date of the homologation period. The chassis is no longer legal for use in major international competition unless the manufacturer applies for and is granted an extension into the new period. (Another 5 years.)
People are not aware of this in the United States, and as a result it causes much confusion. I've seen countless customers buy karts the seller was claiming was a 2008 that could actually be as old as a 2003. In most cases it isn't the seller meaning to be deceptive, it's simply ignorance. Just like any other purchase someone makes, they should first do some research to make sure they're getting what they're paying for. I'm sure we'll see the same thing in coming years with people claiming their 2011 Racer EVRR is actually a 2014.
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Oscar Biondi
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| Posted: Wed Dec 05, 2012 12:45 pm Post subject: |
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Ryon, thanks for the reply. I am aware of the difference between the production year and the homologation numbers. My first kart was a 2005 Swiss Hutless that the owner swore to me it was an 08 (from the homologation date). Learned my lesson about homologation numbers quickly.
Anyway this Racer chassis has the 20-point camber/castor pills, just like my 08 and 09 chassis' (which is an EVR, I thought the EVRR is a 2011 model).
The EVS on the pan suggests it would be an 06 chassis and maybe the previous owner changed the castor pills? But like you said, if it doesn't have the AR7xxxxx or AR8xxxxx then it must not be a 07/08 model.
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Ryon Beachner
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| Posted: Wed Dec 05, 2012 1:35 pm Post subject: |
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| Oscar Biondi wrote: | Ryon, thanks for the reply. I am aware of the difference between the production year and the homologation numbers. My first kart was a 2005 Swiss Hutless that the owner swore to me it was an 08 (from the homologation date). Learned my lesson about homologation numbers quickly.
Anyway this Racer chassis has the 20-point camber/castor pills, just like my 08 and 09 chassis' (which is an EVR, I thought the EVRR is a 2011 model).
The EVS on the pan suggests it would be an 06 chassis and maybe the previous owner changed the castor pills? But like you said, if it doesn't have the AR7xxxxx or AR8xxxxx then it must not be a 07/08 model.
Thanks again!
Oscar |
Well I suppose the floorpan could have been changed, or he may have retrofitted the pills.
Also, does it have an M3 nose, or Unico? Some late 2006's had M3 noses from the factory, most had Unico.
What color hardware is on the kart? Silver, or Gold?
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Oscar Biondi
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| Posted: Wed Dec 05, 2012 1:45 pm Post subject: |
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| M3 plastics and that greenish color components (same color and components that are on my 08 and my 09), definitely not the earlier bright gold stuff. |
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Ryon Beachner
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| Oscar Biondi wrote: | | M3 plastics and that greenish color components (same color and components that are on my 08 and my 09), definitely not the earlier bright gold stuff. |
I mean the screws and hardware, such as the bolts that fasten the bearings to the flanges.
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Oscar Biondi
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| Ryon Beachner wrote: | | Oscar Biondi wrote: | | M3 plastics and that greenish color components (same color and components that are on my 08 and my 09), definitely not the earlier bright gold stuff. |
I mean the screws and hardware, such as the bolts that fasten the bearings to the flanges. |
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Ryon Beachner
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| Oscar Biondi wrote: | | Ryon Beachner wrote: | | Oscar Biondi wrote: | | M3 plastics and that greenish color components (same color and components that are on my 08 and my 09), definitely not the earlier bright gold stuff. |
I mean the screws and hardware, such as the bolts that fasten the bearings to the flanges. |
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Well, seems that it would be a 2008. Unless he had a 2006 and changed the pills, all the nuts and bolts, and bodywork, and just went cheap on the floor pan?
Strange.
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Stephen Savino III
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| How about with a CRG Road Rebel? How can you determine year of chassis from ID plate on chassis? |
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