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Charles Frerking



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PostPosted: Fri Mar 15, 2013 6:50 am    Post subject: Moto Motor Shift Linkage Reply with quote

working on fabbing up (I use the term "fabbing" loosly) a shift linkage for the moto motor (CR 125) I just put in my kart, anyone have any creative solutions?

There's the obvious solution, which is throwing a bend in a tie-rod, but has anyone else come up with a better idea? Pictures of said solutions would be great!
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 15, 2013 8:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Seems kind of silly to do anything other than just put a bend in a long shift rod. Seems to work just fine.
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 15, 2013 8:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Tyson Henry wrote:
Seems kind of silly to do anything other than just put a bend in a long shift rod. Seems to work just fine.


Then I guess you weren't my target audience. I get it, it works, but I'm just seeing if anyone else has done anything a little more "innovative"
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 15, 2013 8:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Charles Frerking wrote:
Tyson Henry wrote:
Seems kind of silly to do anything other than just put a bend in a long shift rod. Seems to work just fine.


Then I guess you weren't my target audience. I get it, it works, but I'm just seeing if anyone else has done anything a little more "innovative"


No need too, just keep it simple. Put 2 bends in it and if you have to shorten it make sure to cut the right hand thread side in case you nee to rethread it.

If you aren't racing and don't have to pass tech then last month the was a whole bunch of bickering about an air shift do hicky that ultimately fails...
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 20, 2013 8:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Uhh on the contrary, my air shifter is on and works great! Legal? No, but the way I installed it, I was able to leave the manual shifter intact and the air shifter can be disconnected in a matter of seconds making my kart legal to race! So with that said, I have the best of both worlds!
As for the manual shift arm? Definitely put the necessary bend/s in the arm and run the J-arm in the UP position! Some run it down but the shift pattern is backwards!
Don't know why everyone is negative about playing with an air or aftermarket shifter! As for failing? There's not a lot that can go wrong. Maybe a .50 O ring or a 5.00 belt. I guess you can compare that to a piston ring or a crank bearing that cost a BUNCH more! Yea running an air shifter is surely a risk!
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 21, 2013 4:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

^ your logic makes my faith in man-kind diminish.
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Todd Kageals



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PostPosted: Thu Mar 21, 2013 9:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

What about a cable shifter? I did some research but ultimately bent a rod and it works just fine. I'd love a paddle shifter but as mentioned above, not lega.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 21, 2013 11:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Todd Kageals wrote:
What about a cable shifter? I did some research but ultimately bent a rod and it works just fine. I'd love a paddle shifter but as mentioned above, not lega.

DD2's have a cable type shifter, yes I realize it's only a two speed, and it's very problematic.

KISS - use a shift rod which is the easiest and best solution.
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Brian Degulis



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PostPosted: Thu Mar 21, 2013 7:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

DD2's use a 2 cable system on a paddle. It can also be done with a push/pull single cable. Typically a marine control cable is used. It's called a morse 33C.

The DD2 is probably the simplest aproach. The paddle shift assembly is around $200 and it mounts on the steering shaft under the wheel. You'd just have to fab cable mounts on the engine side.

Can you tell I've been thinking about this?


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PostPosted: Thu Mar 21, 2013 7:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sometimes it's fun to be complicated!

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PostPosted: Thu Mar 21, 2013 8:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Brian Degulis wrote:
The paddle shift assembly is around $200 and it mounts on the steering shaft under the wheel.

Brian


NO WAY only $200??? show me the link.



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Brian Degulis



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PostPosted: Fri Mar 22, 2013 5:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

This is the new style the old style is cheaper http://store.nexternal.com/mrp/dd2-paddle-shift-kit---retrofit-p1023.aspx

Then you still need some mics parts so your right a little more than $200


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PostPosted: Fri Mar 22, 2013 5:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mike Goebel wrote:
Brian Degulis wrote:
The paddle shift assembly is around $200 and it mounts on the steering shaft under the wheel.

Brian


NO WAY only $200??? show me the link.



Mike G.


How about $300?

http://www.shiftmn.webs.com/
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 22, 2013 5:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Why all of a sudden is there this much interest in aftermarket shifters? I caught so much flack when I was putting my air shifter on my kart just to play with!
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 22, 2013 5:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wow, Benn! Gotta' love those 250's!!
Nice setup.
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