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My RIBS r KILLING ME :(

 
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marc walsh



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PostPosted: Mon Apr 01, 2013 4:52 am    Post subject: My RIBS r KILLING ME :( Reply with quote

After every fun weekend my ribs feel like they just went through an MMA fight. My seat fits pretty good Below Im using a older Rib Tech Style thats actually pretty comfortable

Any suggestions?


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Patrick Roth



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PostPosted: Mon Apr 01, 2013 6:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Marc,

I feel your pain... literally, I have felt the same pain... Wink

I started out "economical" with a typical seat, seat mounting bolts, and inxpensive rib vest. While my single best purchase was a Ribtect 3 vest, I have followed up with the Ribtect mounting bolts, and a Ribtect wrap around seat. The bolts keep your suit from tearing as well as it virtually eliminates the single pressure point from typical mounting bolts (which destroyed my initial "inexpensive" ribvest). The seat really keeps me in place as when I would hit large bumps it was hard to stay seated (this also broke various things on me and the kart) whereas the wrap around style seat holds me in better so I focus more on driving than keeping myself in the seat. I have had absolutely zero rib pain since I have started using these 3 Ribtect products. There may be other products out there similar to Ribtect but I chose to go with Ribtect as the brand has a good reputation/history.

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Walt Gifford



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PostPosted: Mon Apr 01, 2013 7:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I almost quit karting because typical style euro seat put pressure on only 2 ribs. I still have slight back problems to this day. Switched to a Deep Seat and all is well.

Also, if your kart is hopping at all it will kill your ribs really quick.


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John Matthews



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PostPosted: Mon Apr 01, 2013 12:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ribtect is some good stuff, highly recommend their products. Also widen that rear track and don't hop around the corners.

But there's another solution that hardly ever gets mentioned, low power and hard tires. Today's race kart is a pretty crazy machine. Guys are starting out with the same power that experts used to have and the modern sticky tires are serious punishment on your equipment and your body.

I realize this isn't the solution for everyone but if you're trying to get up to speed in a TaG kart and your track offers 100cc or 4 cycle you might want to swap your engine out for a season and work on driving smooth. You'll be faster in the long run and it'll give your ribs a chance to heal Wink

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PostPosted: Mon Apr 01, 2013 4:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Walt Gifford wrote:
I almost quit karting because typical style euro seat put pressure on only 2 ribs. I still have slight back problems to this day. Switched to a Deep Seat and all is well.

Also, if your kart is hopping at all it will kill your ribs really quick.


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Chris Parks



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PostPosted: Tue Apr 02, 2013 12:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The only true way to cure the problem is buy a seat that is way to big and pour an insert while you sit in it.
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John Matthews



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PostPosted: Tue Apr 02, 2013 4:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Chris Parks wrote:
The only true way to cure the problem is buy a seat that is way to big and pour an insert while you sit in it.


While this will make the seat more comfortable it will affect how the kart handles. The seat is a critical piece of tuning equipment, just look at the Swiss Cheese the front-runners are sitting in at any major event.

Robby Mott at Ribtect has a complete system to deal with rib pain, he's been doing it for a long time and he's a big guy who races so he knows what you're dealing with. He's also an EKN advertiser and a darn nice fellow, give him a call and he'll set you up.

The only other solution is to man up and tape your ribs like athletes do in other sports. I once had to cut the tape off the second place finisher at the Supernats, I'm sure he had plenty of ice and painkillers that night Wink

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Chris Parks



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PostPosted: Tue Apr 02, 2013 5:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

John Matthews wrote:
Chris Parks wrote:
The only true way to cure the problem is buy a seat that is way to big and pour an insert while you sit in it.


While this will make the seat more comfortable it will affect how the kart handles. The seat is a critical piece of tuning equipment, just look at the


Yes it will but no more than changing the seat to another brand. It will fix the problem, no question of that and yes you will have to get the seat position correct again but if you can't drive the thing then adjusting the seat is a small issue to be able to drive it again. The problem with tuning the seat position is brought about by lazy manufacturers who won't design systems to do it easily. Our latest kart (not European) only requires the loosening of a few bolts and it can be lifted, lowered or moved back or forth and the whole exercise only takes two minutes and no drill.
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Walt Gifford



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PostPosted: Tue Apr 02, 2013 7:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Back in the day we didn't have any sides on the seats, you just lean into the turn.
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 02, 2013 8:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hey Chris , what kind of kart is that??
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 02, 2013 11:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's a home grown Ozzie Superkart. The principles could be just as easily applied to a sprint kart.

Back to the subject, the larger seat may not alter the handling or if it does it might finish up better, who is to know. Pouring a seat....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RQCBpbVt_zI
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