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JIM SILVERHEELS



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PostPosted: Mon Mar 04, 2013 2:42 pm    Post subject: Handling Reply with quote

I've been re reading as much as I can on handling this past week. One author is in left field, one in center, and one in right on the same topic.
I think I'm gonna ask TJ from now on when I want to know something, he seems to know the most. Now to finish the Captain Morgans. hiccup
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 04, 2013 3:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm in the same boat. I took a CRG manual and an Arrow manual and both have directly conflicting information. (Although I tend to agree with Arrow).

Translation errors? Australian is a very gutteral language with strange names as I understand it.

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 04, 2013 7:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Same with the Kosmic and Arrow manuals. The Arrow manual seems to follow conventional wisdom. The Kosmic manual said several times, in most cases a hard axle will work, or sometimes a softer axle. This was true with hubs, vars, etc. I found their manual not very useful.

But as far as the differing opinions, they might all be right, depending on application. Smaller, lighter drivers will likely need a different adjustment than a larger, heavier driver. We bought our Arrow off Beasley right after he went from 33rd to 2nd at the Rotax qualifier at NCMP in 2010. Blaise jumped in it without making any adjustments and he wasn't happy with the handling. I realize it was a different track, different engines, different tires, and different drivers, but it took a lot of getting used to. In the end we ended up back pretty close to where we started with it. I think it was a matter of the 2 brands feeling so different.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 04, 2013 8:53 pm    Post subject: Re: Handling Reply with quote

JIM SILVERHEELS wrote:
I've been re reading as much as I can on handling this past week. One author is in left field, one in center, and one in right on the same topic.
I think I'm gonna ask TJ from now on when I want to know something, he seems to know the most. Now to finish the Captain Morgans. hiccup


Glad it seems that way. Wink

I think one of the things that taught me the most about handling was working as a tuner/mechanic for a couple years. I had all these ideas on what worked and what didn't and having someone else drive and confirm or shoot down those ideas really helped.

Other than that, I just read and race and amass a database of things in my head. I've read pretty much every chassis manual and using that info plus my experience in testing stuff, I wrote the Merlin manual.

Thanks for the vote of confidence Jim.
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 05, 2013 7:00 am    Post subject: TJ Reply with quote

TJ, yerrrrrrr welcome me boy !
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 06, 2013 7:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's just a shame there is no voting system around here that would make stickies out of the best posts. The same questions get asked over and over again. TJ will never be able to leave the forum. He is our karting messiah.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 06, 2013 9:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Chris Livengood wrote:
It's just a shame there is no voting system around here that would make stickies out of the best posts. The same questions get asked over and over again. TJ will never be able to leave the forum. He is our karting messiah.


Karting wiki anyone?
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 06, 2013 10:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Chris Livengood wrote:
It's just a shame there is no voting system around here that would make stickies out of the best posts. The same questions get asked over and over again. TJ will never be able to leave the forum. He is our karting messiah.


Haha as if my ego wasn't over-inflated enough...
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 06, 2013 10:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

joseph hollinger wrote:
Chris Livengood wrote:
It's just a shame there is no voting system around here that would make stickies out of the best posts. The same questions get asked over and over again. TJ will never be able to leave the forum. He is our karting messiah.


Karting wiki anyone?


There is plenty of open source based wiki code out there. Somebody with some determination should get on it. Theoretically a wiki should populate itself. I'd be willing to donate one of my hosts and domains if somebody with qualifications would step up to the plate.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 06, 2013 11:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

sweet jesus not a wiki. Ever tried to get an everyday person write in one?
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