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Matt Kalevich



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PostPosted: Sun Nov 25, 2012 9:09 pm    Post subject: Chain Length Reply with quote

I'm sure this has been answered many times, but it did not come up in immediate search.
Could someone explain to me in short how to determine chain length?
Engine is a Leopard. 10t front/80t rear.
Is there a standard formula to follow?
Any help is much appreciated!
Thanks,
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 25, 2012 9:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Really depends on kart too. We had a Kosmic T11 with an 11/82 and a 110 chain but use a 106 with the same setup on our Arrow.

With a 10/80 I would think you would need it to be on the shorter side so I'm thinking about a 106 but that would be a guess. Do you have an old chain to compare?
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 25, 2012 9:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Will know more about current chain tomorrow when I remove it. Currently there is a 10t front/79t rear on it. Have major wear issues on both sprockets and they both had to be replaced. Wanting to place a fresh chain on along with the new sprockets.
Makes sense regarding different fits varying between different chassis.
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 26, 2012 7:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Unless you're running o-ring chain you will need to buy a chain breaker and cut to length. O-ring chain comes with a specific length loop and you don't generally take it apart.

Just count the links on your current chain and make the new one the same if you like where the engine sits on your chassis. Your local kart shop should be able to sell you the chain tool and show you how to use it. Practice on your old chain until you can get the pin set correctly, in a year you won't even have to think twice about it.

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PostPosted: Mon Nov 26, 2012 7:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I try to use a standard length of chain right out of the box if possible, saves allot of work.


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PostPosted: Mon Nov 26, 2012 4:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Walt Gifford wrote:
I try to use a standard length of chain right out of the box if possible, saves allot of work.


Gif Cool

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I've never seen a great need to have different length chains. My engine can slide more than enough to accommodate most any sprocket combinations.
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 26, 2012 5:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Chain Breaking is my most dreaded task in Karting Evil or Very Mad
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 26, 2012 6:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

chain breaking is a piece of cake, just take an old chain, sit down and practice breaking it, then take the pieces and practice putting them back together, take your time, don't rush, all it takes is practice, hell I took all the pieces that I had stored in the toolbox (DID chain) and make a complete chain just for the hell of it (about 106 links) put it on the TAG kart just for an engine break-in period, did the break-in and then we went out for some full speed runs, chain worked great, trust me, I was surprised Cool
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 27, 2012 11:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Chain loops are assembled in the first place, as long as you put the links back the same way it should be fine.

That said, if you mess it up you'll be sorry in a big hurry.

Being able to do it well quickly will pay off in getting to the main one day Wink

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PostPosted: Thu Nov 29, 2012 11:49 am    Post subject: breaking a chain.. Reply with quote

Give 520 "O-ring" chain a try.. Laughing It's a bugger but doable..

https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-_4gYHgiwuaU/ULffCIxZA0I/AAAAAAAAAQY/bMYv_PYr-zc/s640/Carl%2520Edwards%2520weekend%2520ride.jpg
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 29, 2012 2:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

patrick slattery wrote:
Chain Breaking is my (added by me: the most) dreaded task in Karting Evil or Very Mad

I thought changing tires and axles were... Laughing
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 05, 2012 4:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you don't have a chain breaker you can just grind of the pin and drive it out with a hammer and punch. @ $35 the chain breaker is worth having.


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PostPosted: Fri Mar 01, 2013 9:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Many are commenting that they can move their motor to accommodate the chain lengths, and I think that is good for the easier way out. However one thing to keep in mind is that when you move your engine to accommodate for a chain, you are changing the weight distribution of your kart slightly. With a kt that should mean hardly anything, but with a rotax that could change things more than you would expect. Something to keep in mind Wink
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 04, 2013 8:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ken Schilling wrote:
patrick slattery wrote:
Chain Breaking is my (added by me: the most) dreaded task in Karting Evil or Very Mad

I thought changing tires and axles were... Laughing


That is number 2. Very Happy
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 04, 2013 9:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

patrick slattery wrote:
Chain Breaking is my most dreaded task in Karting Evil or Very Mad


You must have an automatic tire changer, or someone that does it for you. Very Happy
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