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Andre Eriksen
Joined: 13 Nov 2009 Posts: 388 Location: United States, California,
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Posted: Tue Jan 15, 2013 4:38 pm Post subject: |
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Thanks Ken,
As I wrote earlier - the fuel/oil is the common denominator among all drivers. I'm a metric guy so I have to go back and look at the Ratio Rite to see, but I am fairly sure that almost everyone, myself included, are using more oil than specified...
We did change to another brand over the season though as well as they changed to 110 octane. We are mandated to run Redline Oil. _________________ 2012 Formula Car Challenge Vice Champion (Pro Formula Mazda)
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Ken Schilling
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Posted: Tue Jan 15, 2013 4:41 pm Post subject: |
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| Andre Eriksen wrote: | | ...but I am fairly sure that almost everyone, myself included, are using more oil than specified... |
You're welcome Andre.
I think that maybe we have found at least part of the problem...
Use no more than 6 ozs of oil per gallon. _________________ Ken Schilling
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Andre Eriksen
Joined: 13 Nov 2009 Posts: 388 Location: United States, California,
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Posted: Tue Jan 15, 2013 4:49 pm Post subject: |
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Well yes let's see... I did run the specified amount of oil at some point - that resulted in two stuck and ruined cylinders. I was not lean in either case, just bad lubrication... Piston looked great (on the top) and was wet on top as well. _________________ 2012 Formula Car Challenge Vice Champion (Pro Formula Mazda)
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Chris Hegar
Joined: 25 Jun 2002 Posts: 3529 Location: United States, Oregon, Portland
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Posted: Tue Jan 15, 2013 5:08 pm Post subject: |
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Fire your tuner. 110 won't hurt it should only help eliminate det and that oil should be fine at that ratio. If you all had damage than you all had to lean of a setup for whatever air was being ran in that we have no record of. Bump up to a richer needle, up the main, up the pilot then back off the timing if she blows again. If it's stock 99 it should run for 1000 years straight. Remember it's just a pump, leaning on any pump can kill it and what you ran last week is not always what you can run this week. _________________ www.Hegar4.com |
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Andre Eriksen
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Posted: Tue Jan 15, 2013 5:12 pm Post subject: |
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Here we go again... I don't even want to comment. _________________ 2012 Formula Car Challenge Vice Champion (Pro Formula Mazda)
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Chris Hegar
Joined: 25 Jun 2002 Posts: 3529 Location: United States, Oregon, Portland
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Posted: Tue Jan 15, 2013 5:17 pm Post subject: |
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Take it to Swedetech. _________________ www.Hegar4.com |
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Jeff DeMello
Joined: 13 Sep 2002 Posts: 2213 Location: United States, Pittsburgh Pa,
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Posted: Tue Jan 15, 2013 5:18 pm Post subject: |
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| Andre Eriksen wrote: |
Why is it I have received several PM's this afternoon with people who are 100% familiar with this problem they just don't want to get in to the Honda VS something else discussion...? |
This thread has nothing to do with Honda vs ???????????
I'm done _________________ Jeff DeMello
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Andre Eriksen
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Posted: Tue Jan 15, 2013 5:33 pm Post subject: |
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I don't know what you call it when people leave one brand because of problems and move to another... _________________ 2012 Formula Car Challenge Vice Champion (Pro Formula Mazda)
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Chris Hegar
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Posted: Tue Jan 15, 2013 5:43 pm Post subject: |
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What's a vice champion? _________________ www.Hegar4.com |
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joseph hollinger
Joined: 12 Sep 2002 Posts: 9471 Location: United States, California, san francisco
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Posted: Tue Jan 15, 2013 5:49 pm Post subject: |
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It means that you're the Don Johnson of Rotax. _________________ A lie gets halfway around the world before the truth has a chance to get its pants on. -- Winston Churchill. |
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Andre Eriksen
Joined: 13 Nov 2009 Posts: 388 Location: United States, California,
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Posted: Tue Jan 15, 2013 5:53 pm Post subject: |
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vice
/vīs/
Noun
Immoral or wicked behavior.
Preposition
As a substitute for: "the letter was drafted by David Hunt, vice Bevin who was ill".
Combining form
Acting as deputy or substitute for; next in rank: "vice regent"; "vice-consul".
Synonyms
noun. defect - vise - fault
preposition. instead of - in place of - in lieu of - for
I will be happy to assist you with any other language challenge you have! _________________ 2012 Formula Car Challenge Vice Champion (Pro Formula Mazda)
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Jason Berry Advertiser

Joined: 29 Dec 2001 Posts: 294
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Posted: Tue Jan 15, 2013 6:19 pm Post subject: |
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Andre,
I notice the head you show machined has two outlets and the one on the engine has one outlet.
What is the difference between the two?
Does the O-ring head take into account the water flow and restrictions that the was engineered by Honda when using a stock head gasket?
I'm also very curious about the design of the outer o ring groove. How will this affect machining costs vs a simply round groove?
My vote is to allow machining, it would be an extra way to make a buck on a Stock Moto class.
--- Steve B, post your next comment here
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Chris,
Corrected altitude at Sonoma last weekend was - 1000 ft to 500 ft, depending on the time of day.
Fuel system used by Pro Stock Honda Champion and Vice Champion is the GFS.
Fuel system used by the Master Stock Honda champion is also the GFS. Same engine builder for all three.
Hope this information helps with your diagnosis. _________________ 916 687 3980
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Chris Hegar
Joined: 25 Jun 2002 Posts: 3529 Location: United States, Oregon, Portland
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Posted: Tue Jan 15, 2013 6:30 pm Post subject: |
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In "vice" I was wondering if you were a navigator or "co" pilot with someone much like rally has. It's been wonderful speaking with you. _________________ www.Hegar4.com |
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Chris Reinhardt
Joined: 29 Aug 2002 Posts: 2921 Location: United States, New York, Ossining
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Posted: Tue Jan 15, 2013 6:32 pm Post subject: |
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Hey Jason, stop throwing facts around, wadda trying to do!!!!
Andre, take it Swedetech....
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Sam Zavaglia
Joined: 23 Nov 2004 Posts: 1177 Location: Australia, Sydney,
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Posted: Tue Jan 15, 2013 8:19 pm Post subject: |
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Not intended to offend, but would "vice" suggest the first loser or there is someone better?
eg,
Vice President v President
Vice Captain v Captain
Vice Champion v Champion
Back to oil ratio, if you make a ratio of more oil in your mix, would that suggest there is less fuel in that mix.....meaning a leaner fuel to air ratio using the same jetting given all other conditions are the same?
Just saying, there is still a balance to consider there with oil ratio.
Anyway, take it to Swedetech, can't say I've heard bad things about the way their engines run. _________________ www.samzavaglia.com |
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