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RLV R4 Pipe - why so bad???
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Mike Goebel



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PostPosted: Wed Oct 10, 2012 4:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Do the RCE T3's crack too???



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PostPosted: Wed Oct 10, 2012 5:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The stamped pipe makes for a much more durable product period. It also makes it easier to tech.
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 10, 2012 5:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I can see the market for used R4's just tanked.
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 10, 2012 6:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mike Goebel wrote:
Do the RCE T3's crack too???



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I don't know, why don't you call RCE and ask them.... Laughing

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PostPosted: Wed Oct 10, 2012 6:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I can see the market for used R4's just tanked.


Both will be SKUSA legal next year.
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 10, 2012 7:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks again for your input Jimmy.
Is RLV going to make this the standard pipe and obsolete the 1 piece pipe?

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I'm using the RLV mount kit front and rear, the hose clamps done up tight, Akropovic exhaust springs, 3x RLV and 2x M4 12" silencer, 5x R4H pipes all perfect over 1-3 year period with 1x Sweedetech 3 ring exhaust flange, 4x Sharkshifter 2 ring exhaust flange, all in road racing use.


You are obviously doing something wrong Laughing


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Hi Mike,
I follow the manufactures instructions and don't mount the pipe to the frame. It is all completely mounted to the engine points.
BTW, they get used at least every 6-8 weeks for a good 3 gallons of fuel through each engine.


PS. Just received another brand new package from Shark today, std R4H pipe. Wink

PSS. Damn, I'm leaving Vegas on Tuesday before SKUSA event, I didn't realize when I purchased my International flights, wish I was there to catch up with you guys. Have fun.
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 10, 2012 7:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dam Sam, you should change it, stay a few more days. We'll be getting there Tues afternoon.
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 11, 2012 5:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

+1 on the extra rotatable joint.
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 12, 2012 9:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Here is a much better pic on how I mount the 1 piece pipe without a single problem. Brand new package just arrived from Sharkshifter.


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PostPosted: Sat Oct 13, 2012 7:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nice, Very clean. Smile

Sam, what do you think about the new pipe design. I remember the issues that where brought up about the seal problems with the RCE T2. http://ekartingnews.com/viewtopic.php?p=337797&highlight=#337797
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 13, 2012 8:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sam, thats exactly how I have my pipe mounted. Ive tried solid mount, rubber mount, o-ring manifold and stock manifold. Didnt make a difference, the pipes would crack in the same spot.
They must have just had a bad batch or something, at times I was getting less than two months on a pipe. The last one I bought has lasted 10 months with no problems.
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 13, 2012 8:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

so clean i love it, is the twin water outlet better then the single one i have, i have no cooling issue, just asking,
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 13, 2012 11:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have a RCE T3 for sale - $175 - never used...in my garage for the past 3 years...

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Do the RCE T3's crack too???



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PostPosted: Sat Oct 13, 2012 11:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

My first RLV pipe purchased back in 2008 was perfect...no issues...and eventually sold thinking that new was better. Then right after that...3 cracked pipes, including one w/ 3 races and one w/ 1 race. So my last three pipes probably came from the bad batch. Hope they fixed this problem because sounds to me that this is the weak link in the selling point that the Stock Honda Package is solid, reliable, affordable... Going to run w/ my welded pipes for now until I get my hands on the new spec pipe, but I will be unable to challenge Jimmy for victory until then.

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Sam, thats exactly how I have my pipe mounted. Ive tried solid mount, rubber mount, o-ring manifold and stock manifold. Didnt make a difference, the pipes would crack in the same spot.
They must have just had a bad batch or something, at times I was getting less than two months on a pipe. The last one I bought has lasted 10 months with no problems.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 15, 2012 10:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't think I saw idea mentioned above -- for what its worth I had RLV repair my cracked R4 pipe. They replaced the section(s) that was cracked for a reasonable price. At least it worked good for me.
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