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Derek Lodato
Joined: 10 May 2002 Posts: 52 Location: United States, Florida,
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Posted: Thu Sep 27, 2012 8:22 pm Post subject: Which is the Best Shifter Chassis to buy and why? |
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Hey everyone,
I am working on purchasing my first shifter chassis and I have been getting many opinions. I was initially looking at GP chassis but I hear I should look at a different chassis now based on other opinions.
I was initially looking at GP8 or GP10 shifter 32mm chassis with Steel brakes
CRG is in the ryunning but I now hear that I should look at OTK 30mm chassis now (FA, TONY etc)
My driving style is aggressive but not sloppy.... I weigh in at 190 so I thought to rule out the 30mm from some.. others say its fine.
I want to hear your thoughts and why you would choose your suggested chassis.
Thank you in advance |
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joseph hollinger
Joined: 12 Sep 2002 Posts: 9486 Location: United States, California, san francisco
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Posted: Thu Sep 27, 2012 8:52 pm Post subject: |
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Buy the chassis that has the best support in the area you race. Go to local races hook up with a local shop. Do whatever they tell you. _________________ A lie gets halfway around the world before the truth has a chance to get its pants on. -- Winston Churchill. |
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Bill Schmidt
Joined: 05 Jul 2010 Posts: 244 Location: United States, Kansas, Kansas City
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Posted: Thu Sep 27, 2012 8:53 pm Post subject: |
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I would look at AMV. It is made in Italy and $1000 cheaper than the big 3. _________________ Bill Schmidt
'95 Trackmagic 125 shifter (Kawi)
'88 Red Devil F500 4-link rear (Rotax) |
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Howie Idelson
Joined: 18 Jul 2001 Posts: 1343 Location: United States, California, Pacific Palisades
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Posted: Thu Sep 27, 2012 10:09 pm Post subject: |
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It's like asking which is the best racing bicycle to buy? There's no concrete answer. Most everyone will recommend the chassis they drive or sell. The key is, Like a racing bicycle, you still need to pedal fastest to win. The bike won't do your job. Same with the kart - they're all good. There's not much difference between the top line chassis. Any good driver who knows how to set up a chassis will be competitive. Your job will be to buy a kart and make yourself competitive through experience. In other words, It 'aint about the chassis. _________________ Howie Idelson
howieidelson@mac.com
www.coroflot.com/howieidelson |
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Jim McMahon
Joined: 07 Apr 2007 Posts: 2688 Location: United States, St. Paul,
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Posted: Fri Sep 28, 2012 7:41 am Post subject: |
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Find out what chassis seem to work well and or are supported at the series/track you run. From that list, pick your favorite color or whatever you can get the best overall deal on.
I'm serious. _________________ Live in the midwest and have a TaG, Shifter, KPV, KT100, Animal\LO206, enduro or superkart?
Click here to join the karting festival at Blackhawk, IL June 1st-2nd. |
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Spencer Uzri
Joined: 18 Apr 2006 Posts: 798
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Posted: Fri Sep 28, 2012 2:51 pm Post subject: |
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Not sure what anyone might have said to steer you away from it, but I run a GP8 & it's a solid chassis. 32/32 tubing, VEN05 steel brakes...
I tend to think local support is a little more critical for the engine than the chassis, mainly because parts can be readily had online; bolts & fasteners are pretty std & available at local hardware shops (seat washers being the exception). No one sells GP where I'm at, but GP components are CRG mfg, so it's easy enough to find parts when I need them.
By contrast, tuning/rebuilding is a little more involved & requires specific tools, parts, & knowledge. |
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joseph hollinger
Joined: 12 Sep 2002 Posts: 9486 Location: United States, California, san francisco
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Posted: Fri Sep 28, 2012 3:02 pm Post subject: |
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| Spencer Uzri wrote: |
By contrast, tuning/rebuilding is a little more involved & requires specific tools, parts, & knowledge. |
I would say the exact opposite. When the motor needs major work, it goes in a box. As far as I know, it gets rebuilt by UPS or FedEx. Having someone at the track who can (and wants) to help with setup is priceless. Especially for a new guy. _________________ A lie gets halfway around the world before the truth has a chance to get its pants on. -- Winston Churchill. |
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Spencer Uzri
Joined: 18 Apr 2006 Posts: 798
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Posted: Fri Sep 28, 2012 3:35 pm Post subject: |
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| joseph hollinger wrote: | | Spencer Uzri wrote: |
By contrast, tuning/rebuilding is a little more involved & requires specific tools, parts, & knowledge. |
I would say the exact opposite. When the motor needs major work, it goes in a box. As far as I know, it gets rebuilt by UPS or FedEx. Having someone at the track who can (and wants) to help with setup is priceless. Especially for a new guy. |
To each his own.
The basics of setup apply to all chassis, regardless of make, so I can glean the basics from the other guys in my area running CRG's & Italkarts.
Shipping cost = rape for a 30#-40#+ of freight. That, & I won't rely on shipping companies with my valuable property if I can have a choice. I've had UPS "return" items I sent out for service/warranty to a neighbor's address down the road. I prefer having a motor shop local for that reason alone. |
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Derek Lodato
Joined: 10 May 2002 Posts: 52 Location: United States, Florida,
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Posted: Sat Sep 29, 2012 12:50 pm Post subject: |
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Thanks for all of your replies....
I am more now looking towards a GP10 or GP11
Does anyone have experience with either of the chassis mentioned above?
Which do you prefer and why is one better over the other?
The GP10 is 32mm and GP11 is a 30mm shifter chassis
I'm trying to figure this out ... I am 190lbs and heard the 32mm is better but others say it doesn't matter ... just trying to get the real deal truth here.
Also and probably one of the bigger questions... How much should I budget in for a good used roller chassis?
Thanks in advance for your information |
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joseph hollinger
Joined: 12 Sep 2002 Posts: 9486 Location: United States, California, san francisco
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Posted: Sat Sep 29, 2012 1:08 pm Post subject: |
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In general, I'm going to guess that you're probably not going to see a lot of Gp11's for sale. 10's are far more common and you can get a good one for between $3k and $4k. _________________ A lie gets halfway around the world before the truth has a chance to get its pants on. -- Winston Churchill. |
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Ryan Leger
Joined: 19 Jul 2012 Posts: 133
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Posted: Sun Sep 30, 2012 6:46 am Post subject: |
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| I picked up my gp10 and gp11 here in canada for 4000 tpgether i love the chassis it handles great and is very reaponsive either one is a good chassis |
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Spencer Uzri
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Posted: Sun Sep 30, 2012 11:05 am Post subject: |
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| You bagged both for $4K? That's one hell of a find. Are they thrashed, or what? |
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Ryan Leger
Joined: 19 Jul 2012 Posts: 133
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Posted: Sun Sep 30, 2012 11:52 am Post subject: |
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| Nope they were both straight on the chasis table and both chassis ran fast times at super nats the the gp10 is mint and the gp11 just needed a freash powder coat every part on them was brand new even all the hardware |
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Ryan Leger
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Posted: Sun Sep 30, 2012 11:53 am Post subject: |
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| And they both came with new ceramic brakes front and back |
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joseph hollinger
Joined: 12 Sep 2002 Posts: 9486 Location: United States, California, san francisco
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