CES 2013 Preseason Discussion Thread

Jim McMahon · Posted: Tue Dec 18, 2012 10:55 am Post subject:

Insurance is same wet or dry AFAIK, which I think says something about the safety perception. In fact I would say that the approach of NOT racing in the wet is an extra financial risk for the series. Cancellations\postponements don't make anybody happy.

Used set of alum rims work perfect. If you are REALLY stuck you can even pop the wet tires onto wider dry rims, bit of a pain but again you will get to do what you have invested your time and money into... Going racing and having fun.
The only "extra" expense is rims, you'll be buying tires anyway. New or used.
20 weeks until round one at Gateway. I think the cost excuse is just that, an excuse. Think of it as a hedge investment against climate.

Only reservation I have about putting a vote to members is that the majority of racers at the races are not members of CES. Why is another discussion and the policy on that might change for 2013. But until then I think we should bear that in mind.
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Glen Luening · Posted: Tue Dec 18, 2012 3:23 pm Post subject:

No Peter I did not race gingerman before. But that place if rough in spot. Don't get me wron it was a great layout but not that fun when you are busting ribs. As far as eating tire like chili dogs, I would say it is the old pebble track that does that more then anything.

As far as running in the rain count me out. Besides the cost of tires, rims. wet suit, and other issues like water in the engine. Not to mention safety.

Peter Zambos · Posted: Tue Dec 18, 2012 3:52 pm Post subject:

Jim McMahon · Posted: Tue Jan 01, 2013 1:57 pm Post subject:

Dates and tracks at the top of this thread are now OFFICIAL.
2013 is a GO!
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Jim McMahon · Posted: Fri Jan 11, 2013 7:59 am Post subject:

Gingerman have announced in their newsletter that they will be doing a full track repave in Fall this year, but nothing more specific has been announced yet.
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Jim McMahon · Posted: Fri Jan 11, 2013 11:44 am Post subject:

2013 Membership & Number Registration Open!

Direct link to the form: HERE. Simply fill it out on your computer (yes, really), print it out and send it in. Along with payment of course.

Members from the 2012 season that would like to keep their permanent kart number from last year must have their payment and application returned to CES by no later than February 28th 2013.

After that date any permanent kart numbers not reclaimed by members from the 2012 season will be placed back into rotation for other new and current members to choose from.

When choosing member kart number on the membership application please list alternate number choices and if your first choice is not available we will contact you prior to issuing alternate numbers.

Kart number kits are available thru Kart Graphix at www.kartgraphix.com PH-262-279-0717

For the 2013 season you must be a member of CES / TAG to participate in the Championship Enduro Series events. You can purchase an annual membership or you can purchase your membership on a per-event basis which ever you choose. If you choose to purchase your membership on a per event basis after 4 weekend events you membership will become paid for the 2013 season and you will qualify for year end awards.

We will be adding the class structures and the updated rules soon. We also will be announcing web based registration for 2013 provided by http://www.MotorsportReg.com so you are encouraged to setup an account with them as soon as you can. MotorsportReg accounts are free!
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Peter Zambos · Posted: Fri Jan 11, 2013 12:08 pm Post subject:

Jim McMahon · Posted: Fri Jan 11, 2013 12:20 pm Post subject:

Thanks Peter. Pulling out all the stops for 2013!!!
Theres a possiblity that we will be able to offer at-track electronic "registration stations" (in addition to having real people!) so we can speed things up and ease the load on the registration staff. It's not concrete just yet, but I would really like to make it happen.
More on that as things progress.
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Scott Behnke · Joined: 24 Jan 2006 Posts: 125

Where is the "running in the rain" decision at?? Is it Davey's call or the insurance provider?? If we need to buy rain tires, now would be the time.
How about 2012 points??
Thx

Jeff Salak · Posted: Wed Jan 23, 2013 10:05 am Post subject:

I agree Scott. I would rather invest now in the slow season. For the parts/tires I need during the race season.

Last year i didnt even know I finished 3rd in points. Missed the banquet fixing/working on my kart. Walked up after it was over. Only to find out I should have been there!
The points should be updated after each race.
I would be happy to keep track of points for the club next year if needed.

Scott you won every race, I think you finished first in points! Rolling Eyes

Joe S. Ruch · Posted: Thu Jan 24, 2013 5:23 pm Post subject:

I'm considering putting together a kart for CIK125. All i need is a new motor. Wouldn't mind doing some road racing again it's been a long time. SKUSA Pro Tour is too rich for my blood nowadays.

If anybody is selling any good motors out there let me know.

Joe
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David Cole · Posted: Thu Jan 24, 2013 6:53 pm Post subject:

Greg Wright · Posted: Fri Jan 25, 2013 7:44 am Post subject:

Jim McMahon · Posted: Fri Jan 25, 2013 2:48 pm Post subject:

Guys thanks for offering help with the points. It's appreciated.
For 2013 we will be using MyLaps' service to automatically calculate the points.
This year to run with CES you must be a member (you can get a weekend membership just like other clubs/orgs). So therefore all drivers will score points during the 2013 season. As a result the championship tables will give a better picture of the level of participation we get at the races.

Along with entries being accepted and sessions/races being built via motorsportreg.com a lot of these things will be automated leaving chance of manual entry errors. I expect you will see a lot more homogenization with the race/session descriptions and soforth in MyLaps from 2013 onwards as well as the points being updated after each race. Judging from 2012 they will probably be updated <24hrs after Sunday.

Re rain racing, Dave Larson told me "we already race in the wet". So as far as he is concerned we will continue to race as we have done awarding rain points. Gingerman '11 was an exception to the rule due to flooding with the new section of the track making it unsafe.
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Jim McMahon · Posted: Fri Jan 25, 2013 2:52 pm Post subject: