Pushing Part Deux

Chris Hegar · Posted: Mon Jan 07, 2013 3:28 pm Post subject:

+1 to what he said.

My brother has been turned around by inexperience before and it was bad. Bent chassis, crapped pants, ect. The fella freely admitted he didn't know what he was doing and did not lift and did not hit square.

A helmet brings out the fangs in people, ya just gotta hope the guy your dealing with has some sort of respect for life over the massive amount of chicks and cash we score for winning. Just a little respect please.
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Jimmy McNeil · Posted: Mon Jan 07, 2013 4:33 pm Post subject:

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Chris Hegar · Posted: Mon Jan 07, 2013 4:43 pm Post subject:

Ken, you are exactly the reason we don't do it and don't promote it. Nothing at all wrong with your position and if everyone thought like that we would all stand a better chance of making it to work on Monday. Unfortunately even Ken admits to a little pushing on a track like Streets which isn't any safer than Daytona or RA allowed or not. We all fall into the trap when allowed or not allowed it's a tough call. If given the option though I'd rather take it from behind from Jimmy or my brother due to proven skills but we don't get to choose partners sometimes do we. Hey that's gross I didn't mean it like that hey... you guys are so gross.

You should hear my old man give us the verbal beat down about being stupid and dangerous every time we race, that guy will make ya feel like your 3 just as you pull on your helmet. Our recent video's didn't make it any easier on us. Were gonna wreck each other soon just watch. Any of the rest of you need a scolding come see him. If he was race director it would be a parade out there all day.
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Jimmy McNeil · Posted: Mon Jan 07, 2013 4:43 pm Post subject:

Ken, I had no idea you had 3 kids, why arent they racing?

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Jimmy McNeil · Posted: Mon Jan 07, 2013 4:58 pm Post subject:

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Chris Hegar · Posted: Mon Jan 07, 2013 5:20 pm Post subject:

Jimmy has warm hands and a nice smile, I look for that in a helper.

Back to topic.. pushing bad! Shocked

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Michael Taksa · Posted: Mon Jan 07, 2013 5:32 pm Post subject:

Having raced at NHIS next to the concrete wall I agree pushing is bad and I made sure I left at least two feet space when drafting. When I was racing there noone tried to bump draft me, probably because I was too slow, but what should one do if bumped from behind? I don't want to get bumped, especially if I do not expect it, but there are people who do it and think they are helping you. Especially on tracks you never raced on you do not know what is acceptable and what is not. And if in a driver meeting it is stressed to NOT do it, how does one react if bumped? And yes, I am old enough to realize that the risk is not worth the trophy, but there a few out there who think it's ok to do. End of rant.

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Eric Stockford · Posted: Tue Jan 08, 2013 8:15 am Post subject:

In my earlier days I bump drafted with the best of them......all I want to do is win.
I posted this story on the other thread, it was removed. I guess this is the place.

I hate to say it but this is one of those things you never forget.

Jim Sorrentino and I were pushing our karts to the grid at Daytona in 2002. Our first trip there in many years, we had better equipment and felt we were ready for anything. We weren't.

While pushing our karts to the grid the red came out. Ambulance and fire trucks rushed to the scene as usual, we felt it would be your normal quick red. We took a seat on pit wall and waited for a few.
About 30 minutes passed we didn't think anything was out of the norm. But people began to buzz around, more trucks out on to the track and safety personnel.

Then out of the corner of my eye I saw Michael Davis Sr. walking thru the pit wall opening, something was definitely going on..........he thru a helmet and said" He's dead....my son is dead"

This memory will be with me forever.

There is a reason we don't allow it in road racing. It's deadly.

Eric

Dan Davis · Posted: Tue Jan 08, 2013 8:19 am Post subject:

+1 to everything said.

Chris, I remember those RA days quite well. There are some great memories and some terrifying ones from those years. I'll never forget being in the middle of a 5+ kart pushfest leading into Canada corner. Kart in front of me moving left and kart in back moving right....all glued together with tach's pegged at or over 13000. Makes for a very interesting feeling that I really don't care to revisit. Essentially, no control of the outcome at that point. Luckily, all turned out well....except that I didn't finish where I would have liked. Wink

I seem to remember 2:29 lap times at the front (not me).....better than the likes of Mike Spear Jr. and Brian Wilhelm in laydown F125's. That was indeed impressive although a bit like our stock market these days....unreal.
The first one-two laps of those RA events were also pretty hair raising with nearly 100 karts taking the standing start green flag. There were usually several karts sticking on the long straits with large groups karts zig zagging in and out of them at a split second notice if that, hoping there was nobody coming along side at the time. Things usually calmed down a bit after that....but not that year when pushing was allowed....that was nuts the majority of the way.....sure wish we could go back to RA again. That is one awesome track and had upwards of 1000 entries during that time.

I also remember an event at Road Atlanta along the pit wall where I was "creamed in the rear" (sorry, couldn't resist) near start finish. I distinctly remember facing the wall at 100 mph and somehow got the kart straitened out before hitting it. In most cases, pushing was forbidden but not enforced......but I do remember the year that Chris was referring to at RA where it was allowed. There were LOTS of bug eyes in the shifter races that year for sure.