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Brian G. Wilson



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PostPosted: Tue Dec 11, 2012 6:52 pm    Post subject: Front/rear bar in or out? Reply with quote

Just trying to take an informal poll on how you run your kart in relation to the front and rear bars. I didn't put this in the chassis and handling section because I wanted input from people driving higher hp karts and figured I would get people becoming too technical in that section or one's with lower hp karts.

This is not brand specific and we will say the kart has the original 50 mm axle it came with (usually stiffer rather than softer in my experience) and you are running MG yellows or a tire equivalent in grip or even a little harder and you are driving on sprint tracks. This is a question for the everyday driver, not the team driver that carries 10 different axles with them and has a chassis tuner.

Do you have your front bar in or out?
Do you have your rear bar in or out?
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 12, 2012 12:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've never seen anyone fast actually run a rear bar in. Maybe in the rain, but I don't even bring the rear bar to the track anymore. BTW: Rear bar in can feel really good, but it can stop the kart from transferring weight the way it should. I believe that's why most remove it .

Front bar seems to be more chassis brand specific. For example, I've noticed Tonykart's usually have it in (and in varying stiffness), while CRG type chassis usually have it out. That's not 100% accurate, but most of the time that's what I've noticed.
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 12, 2012 6:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Front bar depends on the chassis, not just the brand.

Rear bar, throw it in the trash or use is a paperweight/pry-bar. Unless your on a margay...
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 12, 2012 9:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The best thing you can do with a rear bar is cut it up with a hacksaw so no one can use it again.
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 12, 2012 11:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've nearly always ended up with the rear bar out, CRG, Tony, WildKart, Wright, GP. Front bar comes and goes.
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 12, 2012 2:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Interesting. Does not using the rear bar also extend to TaG/Rotax?
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 12, 2012 2:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Joe Brizzolara wrote:
Interesting. Does not using the rear bar also extend to TaG/Rotax?


Yes, I've never used it.

If you have WAY WAY WAY too much lift, put it in. But 99.9% of people are looking to GET lift.

If you're 200 pounds and running a 28mm chassis, put the rear bar in. Otherwise, see above posts on proper disposal methods.
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 12, 2012 2:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

We never use the rear bar.
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 14, 2012 9:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Got it. May make a good weapon!
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 14, 2012 5:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

So how do you account for the fact that every new kart has the rear bar as an option?
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 14, 2012 5:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Vernon Head wrote:
So how do you account for the fact that every new kart has the rear bar as an option?


I've always wondered the same thing. It's a funky perception deal that none of the manufactures want to take first stab at producing a chassis without a rear bar. Oh no! That chassis isn't as adjustable as the others.
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 14, 2012 11:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You don't throw it away you cut it down and use for the front!
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