EKN Platinum Forum - Russell
IKF Region 7 - LB
HOME - NEWS - FEATURES - DRIVERS - PR WIRE - FORUMS - MULTIMEDIA - PHOTOS - SCHEDULES - RESULTS - LINKS - INTERNATIONAL NEWS - NEW TO KARTING - CONTACT

One Race Gear - SS


Fastech Racing








3G Kart Racing


CPI - DB

SCCA Enterprises - FB
 FAQFAQ   SearchSearch   MemberlistMemberlist   UsergroupsUsergroups   RegisterRegister 
 ProfileProfile   Login to check your private messagesLogin to check your private messages   LoginLogin 
Going to 2 cycle
Goto page Previous  1, 2
 
Post new topic   Reply to topic    eKartingNews.com Forum Index -> 2-Cycle Racing
View previous topic :: View next topic  
Author Message
TJ Koyen



Joined: 03 Oct 2004
Posts: 1414
Location: United States, Wisconsin, Sun Prairie

PostPosted: Fri Nov 09, 2012 9:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just as a second opinion, we also slipped around 10k on the clutch for pipe as well. We're talking old school Yamaha pipe here, not the new KPV pipes or whatever they're running on them nowadays.
_________________
T.J. Koyen
OKTANE VISUAL - Custom Helmet Paint & Graphic Design

www.oktanevisual.com
www.facebook.com/oktanevisual
--------------------------
DB Motorsports
Exprit/Leopard
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Visit poster's website
Sean Kisselbach



Joined: 04 Feb 2012
Posts: 18

PostPosted: Fri Nov 09, 2012 11:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

We use the new style pipe. Mabey that is the difference?
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
Brian Mead



Joined: 18 Mar 2007
Posts: 787
Location: United States, Tennessee, Franklin

PostPosted: Sat Nov 10, 2012 8:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm sure it is. The original poster referenced the L2, which is what I have.
I'd still play with the slip to see if you can get better times. Better yet, show up with an L2, slip it to 10.2 and see the difference.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
Michael Knauf



Joined: 31 Oct 2011
Posts: 58

PostPosted: Sat Nov 10, 2012 11:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Builder told me over 10K for the L2 pipe, around 8600 for the can.

I'll of course play around on the tracks I am going to run as see what is best for me. At least those seem like good ballpark #'s
_________________
Mike
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
Ken Olson



Joined: 06 Aug 2004
Posts: 1019
Location: United States, Washington, Monroe

PostPosted: Fri Dec 07, 2012 3:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you are needing lower than normal sprint racing gear ratio's, because your track is tighter/smaller.. look into a 20mm belt primary jackshaft setup.. be worth your time, and will cover you on any track you go to.. gear changes made simple.. will be able to use ratio's from 17:1 all the way down to 4.5:1 depending on the gears you use on the rear and jackshaft.. Kent @ Laukaitis sells them also for about 270.00..
You'll need an engine belt driver and a motorplate(bolts up to the Yamaha base and has a couple of studs sticking out the bottom on 3" centers to slide in the jackshaft base so you can adjust belt tension)

With a 21 tooth engine belt driver, the belt primay ratio is 2.71(57/21) so you just multiply the rear gear set times the primary ratio to get the final gearing.. and any of the 4 stroke 3/4" bore clutches will work well.. by going with the belt reduction.. it slows the clutch down to the normal operating speed of a 4 stroke, while your engine is turning 10,200 when it engages.. 2 disc or 3 disc dry clutches are cheap anymore.. heck, a little 2 disc MDC clutch would do the trick on a pipe Yamaha..

21/57 belt x 15/75 rear is 13.55:1(small enough gear, 75 tooth so it doesn't hit the ground)
21/57 belt x 24/53 equals 5.98:1(you can find gears up into the 20's just about anywhere for a 3/4" bore/#35 pitch clutch.. nice thing about it.. when you are ready to step up to a case inducted reed engine like a TT-75 or Parilla Reedjet for more power.. you can just bolt it up..


_________________
Ken Olson
Pacific NW Tire Services
Major Racing's "Roll N Prep"
BRC Engineering 150RR
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Visit poster's website
ted tucholski



Joined: 31 May 2003
Posts: 244
Location: United States, Arizona, Phoenix

PostPosted: Sun Dec 09, 2012 6:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sean, you are using an RLV 3 pipe used to replace the old can. These guys are reffering to tuned pipes. 3 or 4 HP difference and they slip'em 9600rpm to 10800 in some cases. Send me a pm on PKRA's website
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
John Cleveland



Joined: 26 Jun 2007
Posts: 30

PostPosted: Tue Dec 11, 2012 7:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mike, Avon is a great track. Didn't run there last year was running dirt but ran a pipe there a handful of years ago. Had an A2 with a L&T 3 disc, slipped to about 10,200. I cant remember off the top of my head but I ran either a 10 tooth drum and 80 or 82 sprocket ( notebook is on trailer) I'll have to look when i get a chance. If you can get it I always ran VP leaded ( felt it helped lubricate and cushion the ring a little extra) 110 with red line synthetic and never had an issue. Cant go wrong with Laukaitis either. I have won two WKA divisional championships in 4hole can running his stuff, great motors and advice.
_________________
"Commitment isn't the time you spend its a line you cross"
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
Michael Pine



Joined: 29 Nov 2007
Posts: 19
Location: United States, Florida, Boynton Beach

PostPosted: Wed Jan 16, 2013 7:32 am    Post subject: 2 cycle tech and how to Reply with quote

Hey Guys,

We have taken some of the guesswork out buy compiling the best tech and how to articles world wide into one organized location.

Check out the Depot Depository.

http://www.kartpartsdepot.com/Depot_Depository_FREE_KARTING_TECH_HOW_TO_s/2120.htm
_________________
Mike
sales@kartpartsdepot.com

www.kartpartsdepot.com
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Visit poster's website AIM Address
John Matthews



Joined: 04 Dec 2004
Posts: 1988
Location: United States, Michigan, Williamsburg

PostPosted: Wed Jan 16, 2013 8:02 am    Post subject: Re: 2 cycle tech and how to Reply with quote

Michael Pine wrote:
Hey Guys,

We have taken some of the guesswork out buy compiling the best tech and how to articles world wide into one organized location.

Check out the Depot Depository.

http://www.kartpartsdepot.com/Depot_Depository_FREE_KARTING_TECH_HOW_TO_s/2120.htm


SPAM
_________________
John Matthews
Heartbeat Power, LLC.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Visit poster's website
Max Wood



Joined: 19 Sep 2001
Posts: 704
Location: United States, New York, Rochester

PostPosted: Wed Jan 16, 2013 1:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

John Cleveland wrote:
Mike, Avon is a great track. Didn't run there last year was running dirt but ran a pipe there a handful of years ago. Had an A2 with a L&T 3 disc, slipped to about 10,200. I cant remember off the top of my head but I ran either a 10 tooth drum and 80 or 82 sprocket ( notebook is on trailer) I'll have to look when i get a chance. If you can get it I always ran VP leaded ( felt it helped lubricate and cushion the ring a little extra) 110 with red line synthetic and never had an issue. Cant go wrong with Laukaitis either. I have won two WKA divisional championships in 4hole can running his stuff, great motors and advice.



+1 on what John says. 11T is a no go for Avon with the tight corners. The Tomar 23-3 has been good at the local tracks also. I prefer Caster oil, but a lot of folks use Redline locally with good luck. Keep in mind the carb settings will be very different from Can to Pipe.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
Display posts from previous:   
Post new topic   Reply to topic    eKartingNews.com Forum Index -> 2-Cycle Racing All times are GMT - 8 Hours
Goto page Previous  1, 2
Page 2 of 2

 
Jump to:  
You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot vote in polls in this forum



Go Top
Copyright © 2002 - 2013 Ekartingnews.com. All Rights Reserved.       Maintained by Holbi LLP
DB time: 0.268095 (45.87%), total time:0.584462, queries:38