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paul hir



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PostPosted: Wed Oct 31, 2012 7:00 am    Post subject: Extended Porch Reply with quote

Hi,

Was wondering if anybody has any experience with it? what is the cost associated with it? are their karts that are better suited for bigger drivers?

Thanks,

Paul
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Ron Dodson



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PostPosted: Wed Oct 31, 2012 7:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Paul, as you find stuff out, would you mind sharing? After talking this weekend I wouldn't mind trying to extend mine too. I don't find my kart terribly uncomfortable but then again I don't know any better...
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William French



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PostPosted: Wed Oct 31, 2012 7:21 am    Post subject: Extended Front Porch Reply with quote

Both CRG and Tony Kart make extended front porch kits. I have seen those two, there may be more. The Tony Kart one is $234 and is well worth the money if you need the extra room.

http://koeneusa.com/OTK-Spare-Parts/Front-Bumpers/Bumper-extension-kit
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paul hir



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PostPosted: Wed Oct 31, 2012 7:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ron Dodson wrote:
Paul, as you find stuff out, would you mind sharing? After talking this weekend I wouldn't mind trying to extend mine too. I don't find my kart terribly uncomfortable but then again I don't know any better...


Ron,

So far from what I heard from other sites that Iconic Edge is a great kart for taller drivers. I run a 2 cycle kart as you may know and I was constantly plagued with a kart that would turn with 2-3 wheels off the ground, so the other advice I was given was to buy a 4 cycle kart have a welder extend the tubing in the front. I was also bouncing the idea of running a laydown seat but haven't really gotten any feedback if that would help.
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Ron Dodson



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PostPosted: Wed Oct 31, 2012 7:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm doing the same thing (with the tipping). I actually scared Dan when we ran the track backwards and I had the left wheels about 12" up in the air as I went through T3. He said I had no reason that I should have not been on my head. 3 laps in a row.

I just have to set the kart up to keep the rear end really loose so that it wants to slide vs tip. Hasn't help my lap times (other than saving time going off track to save it) but it has helped me feel more comfortable sliding vs tipping.

I have thought about a 4 cyle and lay down, if nothing else then to get my torso to stop acting like a parachute.
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John Matthews



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PostPosted: Wed Oct 31, 2012 11:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've been running an extended front porch since my first Invader in 1978. If you have long legs like mine it can make your kart more comfortable and allow you to run the seat further forward.

But, I can make most regular chassis work for me without it by moving the seat back.

Cheers,
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paul hir



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PostPosted: Wed Oct 31, 2012 12:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

John Matthews wrote:
I've been running an extended front porch since my first Invader in 1978. If you have long legs like mine it can make your kart more comfortable and allow you to run the seat further forward.

But, I can make most regular chassis work for me without it by moving the seat back.

Cheers,


John,

Do you run 2 cycle or 4 cycle? Do you run a sprint seat or a laydown seat? What type of bodywork do you run?

Thanks,

Paul
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John Matthews



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PostPosted: Wed Oct 31, 2012 1:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi Paul,

Most recently I've run a GT Kart with a Biesse front porch, Tillet sit-up seat, powered by an Animal. But, I wasn't racing competitively.

Back in the day it was an Invader with a Komet K55, I've never run a lay down seat in sprint, only dirt oval.

All the front porch does is make it more comfortable for the driver. It doesn't affect the wheelbase and your CG should be very close to if you didn't have it. Set your corner weights up and run just like normal.

Cheers,
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Brian Degulis



Joined: 13 Aug 2012
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 28, 2012 4:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've got an older CRG Shifter with a factory front porch. It makes for a much more comfortable fit. Without the porch I've found the standard late model CRG to be the most comfortable and Birel to be the least. I'm 6' with long legs.

Never underestimate a comfortable fit it makes you more competitive.


Brian
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