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First attempt of Video with Data Overlay - OVRP

 
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Ambrose Buldo



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PostPosted: Sun May 06, 2012 10:04 pm    Post subject: First attempt of Video with Data Overlay - OVRP Reply with quote

Let me know what you think,,, A lot of work to create, Some things still dont work (Lap counter, best lap, current lap and braking indicator).


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F3Htf2vKllw


Was not the best run of the day. Best lap in session was 40.94, vs best of day 40.74, vs best ever 40.70.

Intrepid with KPV3 Engine.
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Chuck Parker



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PostPosted: Mon May 07, 2012 5:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Pretty cool, your using the mychron gps and a gopro.? What software are you using to overlay the data. I had some software to do it. But I could never get the data and the video lined up exactley, the g force and rpm would always be off just a little in relation to when they were happening in the video. I forget the name of the software I had.

Btw, where's your gloves?
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PostPosted: Mon May 07, 2012 6:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Chuck:

Yes, GoPro HD, but Video is reduced considerably from HD quality. Almost makes no sense to shoot in HD s it take to long to process and then you publish in lower resolutuon anyway.

Yes it is a AIM Mychron4 with GPS. I've been taking lap time S/F from GPS, I think I am going to switch to using a standard beacon. Using GPS, if you don't drive over the same S/F point precisely (Like passing or beign passed) it does not register the end of the lap.

I use RaceRender, less the $40.

There are 3 packages that do the same. Best may be TrackVision, that is about $140. I think it can prcess the large files better and faster, but not going to spend the money until I am convianced it is of value. There is Dashware, also about $40. The big downside is support from RaceRender. Unlike the other two they don't have a forum to share info and guage packages. For example TrackVision comes with a Mychron 4 Graphic out of the box.

Syncing is a bit of a hassle. I figured syncing would be easy. Sync with the start of the engine or start moving, but it is trial and error. I ended up syncing with lift/braking on first lap at end of straight.

Gloves... Yea, in a rush I left them back at the trailer drying off.

Chuck - What are you running and where. We are trying to build a 100CC Class at OVRP.... We had about 8 100CC powered Karts on Sat, was fun.
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Roger Caddell



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PostPosted: Mon May 07, 2012 8:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ambrose Buldo wrote:
Yes it is a AIM Mychron4 with GPS. I've been taking lap time S/F from GPS, I think I am going to switch to using a standard beacon. Using GPS, if you don't drive over the same S/F point precisely (Like passing or beign passed) it does not register the end of the lap.


This is not typical. The M4/GPS provides a radius that allows the system to pass near the coordinate value you have stored in the data logger for the start/finish line.

I can only think you have established a coordinate value not near the driving line and on your normal driving line you are just catching the edge of the line and when you move farther away, you miss the coordinate you have stored.

I suggest you re-install a new GPS coordinate on the driven line of your track and you will get consistent and accurate laptimes when crossing the line at any part of the track.
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Ambrose Buldo



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PostPosted: Mon May 07, 2012 11:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hey - Roger. Thanks for the feedback. When are you coming back east for another-one of your fine seminiars? I attanded the one you did at NJMP.

The coordiante I selected is the apex of a corner I nail almost all the time. When I drive, I get a proper time 95% of the time. Only when I go off-line (Passing someone) in that corner will it not read.

When I put others in my Kart it's 50/50 wither I get a time or not. What do you suggest, better tp do this on a corner apex or down straight section on track?

The track has a built in beacon, which is always on. Any downside to using the beacon for S/F instead of GPS?
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Roger Caddell



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PostPosted: Mon May 07, 2012 11:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I would bring one of your tests into the GPS Manager software from AiM and look at where you are passing by that corner vs your S/F line coordinate. I still think this may be your issue.

Regarding having your beacon location in a corner or on a straight, it should make no difference to the M4/GPS.

A few more things I would check is to make sure your GPS antenna has a clear view to the sky and is mounted as upright as possible (can be hard on a kart but do your best) and also make sure your hands, arms, legs, etc are not blocking the GPS signals from getting to the antenna when cornering hard.

Finally, I can also help solve the issue if you export one of the affected tests and email all of the files to me.
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Jim Maxson



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PostPosted: Mon May 07, 2012 5:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hey where are your glove's . OVRP used to be pretty strict on wearing your safety gear. Just messin with ya. Very Nice.
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PostPosted: Thu May 10, 2012 11:35 am    Post subject: video with data overlay at ovrp Reply with quote

Posted a new version with EGT Temp, Lat and long G and improvd guages. Not the fastest laps, trak was a little damp, just playing with teh software.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l7P3PujKDTA
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Ambrose Buldo - AKA Racer27
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Current: Citation FC2000 (For Sale), Madza RX8, VW Eos
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Martin Harnois



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PostPosted: Thu May 10, 2012 3:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nice. Your lat G graph seems backward.
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PostPosted: Tue May 15, 2012 10:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ambrose Buldo wrote:
Chuck:

Yes, GoPro HD, but Video is reduced considerably from HD quality. Almost makes no sense to shoot in HD s it take to long to process and then you publish in lower resolutuon anyway.

Yes it is a AIM Mychron4 with GPS. I've been taking lap time S/F from GPS, I think I am going to switch to using a standard beacon. Using GPS, if you don't drive over the same S/F point precisely (Like passing or beign passed) it does not register the end of the lap.

I use RaceRender, less the $40.

There are 3 packages that do the same. Best may be TrackVision, that is about $140. I think it can prcess the large files better and faster, but not going to spend the money until I am convianced it is of value. There is Dashware, also about $40. The big downside is support from RaceRender. Unlike the other two they don't have a forum to share info and guage packages. For example TrackVision comes with a Mychron 4 Graphic out of the box.

Syncing is a bit of a hassle. I figured syncing would be easy. Sync with the start of the engine or start moving, but it is trial and error. I ended up syncing with lift/braking on first lap at end of straight.

Gloves... Yea, in a rush I left them back at the trailer drying off.

Chuck - What are you running and where. We are trying to build a 100CC Class at OVRP.... We had about 8 100CC powered Karts on Sat, was fun.


Something doesn't sound right, with our ActionCam Racer Package (720HD, dual camera and Data) it renders a 20-25 minute race in about 80 minutes. You can check out the video here Of course if you computer is not up to the task your mileage may vary.

I have heard from someone that it has to do with the file format of the GoPro. Our ActionCam creates a direct .MOV file. No need to convert back and forth.

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