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B Thomas



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PostPosted: Thu Apr 19, 2012 2:03 pm    Post subject: port work Reply with quote



Port work on a AH 58 Power Products jug .

Initial cuts were done with a 3/8ths carbide burr bit.

Finish work mostly done with a Dremel .



When you cant get pistons you make do , these will match up with the work on the jug.

Brian





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PostPosted: Fri Apr 20, 2012 7:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The hot rod spirit lives!! Cool
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 20, 2012 11:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Why the piston porting on either side of the wrist pin?
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 20, 2012 11:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

C'mon Al, This isn't that hard, the ports in the piston will feed the "trench ports" in the cylinder wall.
This was common in the early days of rotary valve engines before the TT configuration was the standard.
It seems to me that there used to be a similar mod on some old open Macs back in the day. Now that I think about it I think it was called trench porting.
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 21, 2012 12:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Greg,

Al's question has merit as it seems the openings in the piston are in the wrong place. I say "seems" because the port layout shown in the cylinder in the pictures resembles common porting done to the early Komet and Parilla motors and on those motors the openings in the piston would both be on the same side of the piston rather than straddling the wrist pin.
The Power Products port arrangement is similar to the McCulloch motors where the orientation of the wrist pin is on a line with the exhaust and boost ports rather than the European and Yamaha layout that has the wrist pin on a line going from transfer to transfer so the openings have to straddle the wrist pin just like the openings in the later model Mc 101 pistons
I am a bit surprised at the size of the holes in the piston relative to the width of the boost ports but that shouldn't do any harm as long as the piston isn't weakened too much.
Should work just fine.
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 21, 2012 4:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thin ring pistons are near impossible to find , so I had to save this one .
That is why the holes are just a bit larger . The picture is kind of deceiving. It should not affect the strength of the piston.

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PostPosted: Sat Apr 21, 2012 8:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Greg Wright wrote:
C'mon Al, This isn't that hard, the ports in the piston will feed the "trench ports" in the cylinder wall.
This was common in the early days of rotary valve engines before the TT configuration was the standard.
It seems to me that there used to be a similar mod on some old open Macs back in the day. Now that I think about it I think it was called trench porting.

That makes sense. It is a Power Products barrel. The piston must be turned 90 degrees from what I was expecting. Like the old Mc. And also, the wrist pin doesn’t go as high as the bottom of the exhaust port.
Now I see it.
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 13, 2012 7:32 pm    Post subject: Piston Reply with quote

The Macs had 2 different pistons.One had a cupped bearing on the exhaust side and the other was skirted. The exhaust side wrist pin bearing has to be covered. I don't know about the PP or Benders but it looks very similar to a Mac's design. Good luck and Happy Karting. Very Happy
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 22, 2012 1:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ran it at New Castle, spun it to 11,600 , lost a crank seal . Cleaned up the cylinder used my last std bore Wiseco thin ring piston . Ran it at Quincy . It pulled strong to 10,800 . Had Flywheel issues . Now we are going to 61 kartway by Delmar Ia.

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PostPosted: Fri Nov 02, 2012 11:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ran it at Delmar, ran good mid 10,000 rpm range , 325 temp range .

My wife Dottie and I had a chance to run against each other durring practice .

Dotties kart has stock ports . It was a good comparison .

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