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  • #43250

    Brad Nyman
    Participant

    Would people be willing to race Lo206 if the class was started up locally? It seems like the tracks in our area could really use an affordable class.

    If we can get enough people to commit or start thinking about it, Then it may take off at our local tracks like NJMP and  Etown.

    Force.One motorsports
    Gear up F-series racer

  • #43254

    Walt Gifford
    Participant

    I’m in if it’s WKA rules.

    Gif

    FAA certified jet engine and aircraft technician,
    Nicholson Speedway class champion 2001,
    Yamaha KT100 Service Center,
    41 years karting experience

  • #43278

    Brad Nyman
    Participant

    What would be the benefit of running wka rules vs. sprint only rules? I’m just interested in hearing what other racers think is better for growing a class from the ground up.

    Personally, I know of lots if sprint chassis just sitting in people’s garages waiting to be run again or sold to new people, but it’s hard to justify the cost of running tag as a newbie.

    One last question, is it better to run a spec tire and try and get manufacture support and have prize packages or a discount program, or go open tire and leave it to the racers to decide what to run. Personally I’d like to see spec tire with manufactures support and maybe even a yearly limit to keep costs in check.

    Everyones input would be greatly appreciated so that we can try and make something happen to grow karting again. I’m tired of going to a club race and seeing only 30 people total racing.

    Force.One motorsports
    Gear up F-series racer

  • #43280

    James McMahon
    Participant

    Respect for taking the initiative to try and pull something together.

    My suggestion would be to take a look at the midwest based “LO206 Cup” for ideas. Their program is based in the Midwest and seems to be working very well. They have support from Briggs, a rulebook already done which accommodates both CIK and WKA bodywork and have a spec tire picked out with support from Vega.

    http://www.206cup.com/

     

  • #43281

    James McMahon
    Participant

    Looks like NJMP are offering LO206 in some form, as well as sandy hook speedway:

    http://tinyurl.com/mat65ex

  • #43303

    Brad Nyman
    Participant

    Njmp hasn’t released anything regarding club races this year. As far as we know there aren’t any club races. But on the chance that there are club races, is like to see Lo206 on the class list. Karting in our area is starting to hurt and it would be great to see cheap competitive class running alongside our normal classes.

    I started in 4 cycle karts at NJMP then progressed to rotax and now leopard/x30 with the chance of going back to rotax as well. I’m a firm believer that an accessible class is a must to keep this sport going.

    Force.One motorsports
    Gear up F-series racer

  • #43309

    Walt Gifford
    Participant

    Well I got ahead of myself, I thought WKA allowed both body styles maybe not?

    Where are you getting your info from NJMP? All I know is they open mar 7 and they no longer have the affordable 1/2 day practice session.

    You should allow any chassis any body work and any tire and rat karts if you want to pull people from the four corners.

    Gif

    FAA certified jet engine and aircraft technician,
    Nicholson Speedway class champion 2001,
    Yamaha KT100 Service Center,
    41 years karting experience

  • #43311

    Anonymous

    If guys show up at E-town they will have a class for them to race.. I too have heard that no regular karting events will be at NJMP, just special events that have rented the track for that series.

     

  • #43315

    Brad Nyman
    Participant

    All of us club guys stay pretty well connected with each other so things don’t stay secret long. Multiple people have called and NJMP isn’t running a club series by themselves anymore it seems. And the half day practices that were cheap haven’t been around for atleast 2 years now.

    I know Etown will make a class for 5 people, but it’s getting 5 interested and kicking it into gear is what I’m looking for.

    Honestly, rules do not matter to me. I understand that a basic set of rules will work in the beginning for getting a filled class, but I fear in the long run it won’t work out. When I started karting, there was a youth league called hypermoto. The highest class was a outlaw/rwyb Honda gx200 class. It was great until people spent way too much money trying to be the fastest and build the best motor. It ended up being a spending war and it really killed the class and even the series.

    Thats why I’m interested in hearing what rules will be best received.

    Force.One motorsports
    Gear up F-series racer

  • #43316

    David Cole
    Keymaster

    It’s simple: Keep the engine rules like the rest of the country – following the Briggs rule structure that hasn’t changed in the last few years.

    Next, use standard safety rules like WKA uses, and let it rip. Don’t worry if its a CIK kart or a laydown seat. It really doesn’t matter as long as there is a class for racers to get into the sport or come back out of retirement. When you get 20-30 on a grid, then you can start worrying about what chassis rules to follow.

    Remember, this is karting. Make it simple and people will come.

    David Cole - EKN Managing Editor

  • #43321

    Darrin Tebbe
    Participant

    My advice is to stick to either the true Briggs LO206 rules, WKA rules, or any other series that tries to make the class INCLUSIVE.

    Don’t do what some tracks are doing (GoPro Motorplex comes to mind) where you have to buy a one-off $200 exhaust, have rim width rules that exclude most american karts, require #35 chain only, require CIK bodywork, exclude this seat or that seat, etc. The whole idea is supposed to be that you can bolt on an affordable engine package to a kart you already have and go racing. Stick with that concept.

    DT

  • #43333

    Walt Gifford
    Participant

    +1 for inclusive rules. I don’t even have a CIK kart right now.

    Gif

    FAA certified jet engine and aircraft technician,
    Nicholson Speedway class champion 2001,
    Yamaha KT100 Service Center,
    41 years karting experience

  • #43350

    James McMahon
    Participant

    I removed the LO206 tag from NJMP.

    The B&S rules only cover the motor. I think it’s a given that Brad is going to stick with those motor rules.

    The LO206 cup ruleset covers the B&S motor rules as well as an inclusive bodywork package. They have  and they have picked out a spec tire from Vega who are supporting the series with a credit per entry fee.

    Talk to Greg Jasperson (LO206 cup) and or David Klaus (B&S). I don’t have any affiliation with this series, other than seeing it as a very sensible, holistic approach to LO206 racing.

    My thought is that by using this proven approach as the template for your initiative you are more likely to find success in getting people onboard.

  • #43379

    Brad Nyman
    Participant

    Obviously, You do not under any circumstances change the briggs motor rules. That would almost guarantee that the class is a failure.

    I was more interested in knowing what people where thinking in terms of chassis rules and tire specs. I am up for anything chassis wise. It seems the general consensus is keep it open. Is there a difference in performance though, or is it just looks and construction.  I’m a tag guy and even when I ran 4 strokes, it was conventional cik chassis so i have never ran against a laydown seat/full bodywork kart.

     

     

    Force.One motorsports
    Gear up F-series racer

  • #43384

    David Cole
    Keymaster

    Depends on a number of factors – type of chassis, type of wheels, type of tires, and more importantly, who is driving.

    At a track like Rock Island, with all drivers on 5″ wheels: CIK chassis, 4-Cycle chassis, laydown seat, CIK seat, big nose, CIK nose, they all ran together at the front. It really comes down to who’s driving.

    If the class is just getting started, keep things open to bring in as many people as you can. Keeping tire costs to a minimum is another good thing, so not to force racers to buy a new set every club race.

    David Cole - EKN Managing Editor

  • #43390

    Chris McGinley
    Participant

    Just a note on this, there will be racing at F1 New Jersey (i.e., NJMP) this year … the details are still being finalized. As for LO206, I think it’d be a fun class to build – do we have any sense of how many LO206 engines are in the area?

  • #43467

    Walt Gifford
    Participant

    Chris, if you build it they will come.

    FAA certified jet engine and aircraft technician,
    Nicholson Speedway class champion 2001,
    Yamaha KT100 Service Center,
    41 years karting experience

  • #43473

    Ambrose Buldo
    Participant

    I never really understood how NJMP Pratice/Racing worked. With OVRP and ET, you checked their web site and saw days open, what is practice and what is race. I know what the prices are. I know on practice days ET is mostly drivers bringing their own kart. Same for OVRP although you may lose some track time due to arrive and drive/rentals and classes. Still track time is more than enough.

    NJMP is 3 hrs away for me, it is a great track, but if I drive that far for practice, hope to get reasonable track time. For most part can only practice on weekends. Wither accurate or not, seems like Arrive/Drive and rentals take presidiance. Hopefully track will be avaialible for racer practice on weekends, will be cost effective….

  • #43479

    Chris McGinley
    Participant

    Gif – let’s hope so. The more karters the better.

    Ambrose – it certainly is something that has been challenging over the years since the rental karts are big money-makers for the track. Not sure how practices will go yet this year; but, stay tuned and follow the NJ Karting facebook page and keep an eye on the njkaring.org website to get much-needed updates soon.

  • #43523

    John Anderson
    Participant

    Nicholson Speedway will be offering the LO206 class. They will be using WKA rules for now. If your using a 2 cycle frame/body than  you would follow the 2 cycle set up. You would be able to have your rear tires to not to exceed 55″, you would have to be on a 50mm axle, and a 2 cycle body kit. If your running a 4 cycle kart than your max rear tire width would be 50″, rear axle up to 40mm, with a regular 4 cycle body kit. They are trying to introduce the LO206 as a more economical class for new comers.  There will be a spec tire Bridgestone YHC front 4.5 x 5″ and the rears 7.10 x 5″.

  • #43538

    Walt Gifford
    Participant

    John, Don’t have a WKA rule book yet, what’s the weight and clutch for LO206? I’ll be down there this year for the Legends class but I can bring a second kart for LO206.

    BTW, I don’t think they make the YHC anymore did you mean the YLC?

    Gif

    FAA certified jet engine and aircraft technician,
    Nicholson Speedway class champion 2001,
    Yamaha KT100 Service Center,
    41 years karting experience

  • #43543

    Gary Lawson
    Participant

    Wka 206 375# and any shoe clutch

  • #43564

    Mike Tancredi
    Participant

    Any chance clones and L206 can compete together to get the class going?

  • #43569

    Walt Gifford
    Participant

    I have 2 clones and one is on the kart ready to go so, on some level I like that idea. The problem is there are so many stock appearing modified clones out there that you would need a heavy tech inspection and I don’t see that happening anywhere save Englishtown maybe. Honestly I don’t think people will get into LO206 if they see money pit clones in it. I’m using mine for practice days at Millville.

    Gif

    FAA certified jet engine and aircraft technician,
    Nicholson Speedway class champion 2001,
    Yamaha KT100 Service Center,
    41 years karting experience

  • #43869

    John Anderson
    Participant

    Walt,

     

    Your right Bridgestone YLC. Weight 375 with any 9 spring 6 shoe max clutch.

     

    John

  • #44692

    Chris McGinley
    Participant

    Sorry I forgot to update this thread. The information is out for the newly created Mid-Atlantic Karting Championship. This will be run at NJMP, but organized and executed by a number of racers (myself included) and race supporters in the area. Check out our press release on the NJ Karting site (http://www.njkarting.org/). We’ll be launching a new site and providing updates soon – mark your calendars!

    So, bring out your LO206 (or whatever you’re racing) and bring your friends!

  • #44748

    Walt Gifford
    Participant

    What’s the entry fee?

    FAA certified jet engine and aircraft technician,
    Nicholson Speedway class champion 2001,
    Yamaha KT100 Service Center,
    41 years karting experience

  • #44761

    Chris McGinley
    Participant

    Gif,

    We’re still finalizing some of those details and should be able to start trickling out information as we get that worked out. Ideally we’d have everything organized by now, but we got a bit of a late start on assembling this series. Please keep an eye in these forums and njkarting.org (and NJKarting Facebook page) while we’re getting all of those things worked out.

    -Chris

  • #44889

    Walt Gifford
    Participant

    Well if you can practice there all day for $45 it shouldn’t be more than that.

    Gif

    FAA certified jet engine and aircraft technician,
    Nicholson Speedway class champion 2001,
    Yamaha KT100 Service Center,
    41 years karting experience

  • #44901

    Chris McGinley
    Participant

    Gif,

    Practice prices are dictated by NJMP management. Looks like $65/day from what I see on their website. The expense of running a race vs. running a practice facility aren’t necessarily comparable, but there is a bit of planning left to be worked out in order to figure out all of those details. Hang in there, we’re working hard to organize a series that we think will be fun, competitive, and a great racing environment.

     

    -Chris

  • #49977

    Anonymous

    Sort of a zombie post here, but you can add me to the list of very interested in LO206 in the Jersey area (I’m in NY). I think I am the prototype LO206 owner-new to karting, on a budget and overwhelmed by the engine options/costs out there. Finding an even remotely cherry  TaG or KT100 within my budget has been, frankly, a pain the a**. Then there are encyclopedias written on jetting, carb tuning, what pipe you should run, fuel/oil mix…at this point I’m not trying to conduct a science experiment, I just want to get out there and race.

    So anyway, I’m very close to pulling the trigger on an engine package. I’m ok with running practice for now but I’d love to see a group of guys going out racing.

  • #49986

    Walt Gifford
    Participant

    It’s $65 a day now? Unbelievable. What happened to the $35 for 4 hours that Scott got us? That was a reasonable deal.

    Gif

    P.S. Nic if you’re in NY check out the parking lot racers on Long Island.

    FAA certified jet engine and aircraft technician,
    Nicholson Speedway class champion 2001,
    Yamaha KT100 Service Center,
    41 years karting experience

  • #50663

    Anonymous

    In an effort to get the LO206 word out to my fellow northeast karters and people thinking about getting into the sport, I’ve started to put together a little blog documenting the process from start to finish:

    https://specterkarting.wordpress.com/

    Motor should be coming in soon, so you can watch a complete newbie try to make this thing work

     

    Nick

  • #56312

    Anonymous

    I may be talking to myself here but oh well, got to get the word out somehow.

    LO206 lives in the northeast:

    If two karting noobs can make it work, imagine what you could do! We have two guys confirmed for 2016, with a third looking for a roller to build over the winter. We are around OVRP but e-town wouldn’t be out of the question if the fields are competitive.

     

  • #56313

    David Cole
    Keymaster

    Very cool Nicholas. It just takes a few to start a movement #OperationGrassroots

    David Cole - EKN Managing Editor

  • #56336

    Richard Gordon
    Participant

    Keep up the good work! Might be worth posting an ad on Craigs List for your area. I’m trying to get some interest in this class for our track too. Looks like we are going to gain a few karts. More tracks and shops need to push this as an entry level to get more interest. A spec tire that lasts all season is a good idea too. Tracks in our region use a Duro tire. Have to run the same set all season for qualifying, heats, and mains. Keeps cost way down. It is a lot more appealing to have a cheap competitive class. Will grow karting overall as some will probably jump up into faster, more expensive classes after a while.

  • #56844

    Walt Gifford
    Participant

    Nice work Nic. If the class gets started you’ll have the most experience there.
    Gif

    FAA certified jet engine and aircraft technician,
    Nicholson Speedway class champion 2001,
    Yamaha KT100 Service Center,
    41 years karting experience

  • #56845

    Walt Gifford
    Participant

    What happened with the Mid-Atlantic Karting Championship, did you see any LO206?

    Gif

    FAA certified jet engine and aircraft technician,
    Nicholson Speedway class champion 2001,
    Yamaha KT100 Service Center,
    41 years karting experience

  • #56846

    Chris McGinley
    Participant

    No one showed up with an LO206 … the organizers would have found a home for them in the 2015 season if they had.

  • #56851

    Walt Gifford
    Participant

    What was the entry fee? Having it next year?

    Gif

    FAA certified jet engine and aircraft technician,
    Nicholson Speedway class champion 2001,
    Yamaha KT100 Service Center,
    41 years karting experience

  • #56916

    Christian Fox
    Participant

    If you’re going to do it, don’t be tempted to run it on brick tires. The temptation is to make any already bargain class even cheaper, but there are fun, sticky tires that last with 206 motors. Out west they run them on MG Reds, and up in Canada in ECKC (HUGE fields), they run on super sticky Vega NordAms. Vegas last forever on my son’s Rotax. You’ll have way more fun on tires that have grip, leave the bricks to indoor karting when there is 2 feet of snow on the ground.

  • #56920

    Richard Gordon
    Participant

    Have to say that the stickier tires are much easier to set up the kart for too.  The hard tires require a pretty radical setup to make them work at all.  Much smaller window of adjustments.

  • #56922

    Anonymous

    I’ve reached out to Tim@ OVRP regarding a class for next year but have not heard back yet. I believe the minimum is three guys to run a class, and and I think we’ll have that, at least. Like I said above, two guys for sure and working on a third. I have some ideas for a separate championship within OVRP’s club championship that will reduce costs-a limited schedule, limited tires etc. If OVRP isn’t interested, I will see what LIKA, E-Town and Norwalk say.

    I will agree on the tire. We’re not interested in Duro or YDS. MG Reds are looking like a safe bet.

  • #56923

    Mark Traylor
    Participant

    I agree with Christian.  we run cadets and seniors in LO206 on MG reds.  They work well and provide usable grip down to the cords.  When designing a race car or kart the first question asked before you design anything is “What tire will be used?”  the design grows from that.   No race kart is designed to be run on concession tires.  You need enough grip for the chassis to work.   They run Vega Blues in SoCal and they are good, more grip than the reds and probably bordering on a little too much grip for the low power engine.   Hoosiers are really high grip for them but I have heard that Hoosier is coming out with a new tire for the low horsepower classes.

  • #56945

    Walt Gifford
    Participant

    Why don’t you support shops in your area that support karting and get your Bridgestone YLC straight from the importer GrandProducts in Bensalem PA. It’s a medium compound that’s perfect for LO206.

    Gif

    FAA certified jet engine and aircraft technician,
    Nicholson Speedway class champion 2001,
    Yamaha KT100 Service Center,
    41 years karting experience

  • #57858

    Anonymous

    I’ve made a Facebook page to better update those interested and spread the word on this effort. Like/share/follow if you please!

    https://www.facebook.com/NortheastBriggs/?fref=nf

     

  • #57912

    brian downing
    Participant

    I can tell you that running a race with 3 guys can be a less than satisfying race. It only takes two to race, but unless they’re evenly matched it’s just two guys on the track at the same time, each essentially racing the clock.

    I’m sorry to say this, but to be quite frank, I’m tired of standing around watching the classes with 3 guys racing. It’s not fun to watch classes that small. I’ll sit through it for the real young kids, because they’re the future of the sport, but the Sr classes with 3 karts need to be scratched. It’s more exciting to see two kids battle for tenth place with 15+ entries. There’s lots of skin in the game, lots of spectators, lots of action, and that’s what racing is all about, isn’t it?

    We struggled with the “affordable” classes, KT100, PRD, in New Jersey too, but unfortunately there weren’t enough entries and we are making the switch to TAG in ’16. In this day and age it’s a sad fact, but it takes real money to go karting.

  • #57916

    Anonymous

    I can tell you that running a race with 3 guys can be a less than satisfying race. It only takes two to race, but unless they’re evenly matched it’s just two guys on the track at the same time, each essentially racing the clock.

    And that’s the Catch-22. Can’t have racing without a bunch of guys but a bunch of guys aren’t about to start racing in a new, unknown class. Is this first year with three guys (if we can’t recruit anyone else) going to be thrilling, wheel banging racing? Maybe not. But we have to start somewhere.

    I’m sorry to say this, but to be quite frank, I’m tired of standing around watching the classes with 3 guys racing. It’s not fun to watch classes that small. I’ll sit through it for the real young kids, because they’re the future of the sport, but the Sr classes with 3 karts need to be scratched. It’s more exciting to see two kids battle for tenth place with 15+ entries. There’s lots of skin in the game, lots of spectators, lots of action, and that’s what racing is all about, isn’t it?

    I don’t mean to be rude, but we’re talking about club racing here right? How many people show up to a club race to spectate who aren’t racing themselves or family/friends of racers?

    If you don’t want to watch, then don’t watch. It’s as simple as that. This class is intended to give a place for racers to race, if people want to watch that’s great but I don’t think the primary concern should be if people are watching or not.

    We struggled with the “affordable” classes, KT100, PRD, in New Jersey too, but unfortunately there weren’t enough entries and we are making the switch to TAG in ’16. In this day and age it’s a sad fact, but it takes real money to go karting.

    LO206 is intended to dispel the myth that it takes “real money” to go karting. Yes, its takes real money to run a TaG or a shifter in at a regional or national level. But this class is for people who aren’t interested in that, and just want to have good, close racing without breaking the bank. This attitude that “I’m not interested in a class that will fail because nobody is interested” makes no sense to me

    Maybe this will be a flop and maybe you’ll see me driving a TaG in 2017. Who knows, but I think We at owe it to the guys running on a budget to at least try to make something happen.

  • #57932

    brian downing
    Participant

    Been trying for the past two years, gave up.
    The point about watching was, that as a racer, we have to wait between heats, for our next race, and yes, I enjoy watching races. So, while we wait we watch our peers race, talk to them, ask questions about other setups, etc. But, the day is long, We arrive at 8am, practice, race, go home, unpack, and we are tired. So, in the middle of the day, with races with few entries (some of those have been our races, my son’s class has 4 regulars), the races can be boring to watch. My point was that we need to have classes that are full, and that MANY people want to be part of, not just run what ya brung, we’ll fit you in somewhere. This ain’t SCCA!

  • #57950

    Xander Clements
    Participant

    I get where you’re coming from Brian. I love watching races almost as much as racing in them myself, but I think you’re going after the wrong class to kill here.

    I work at Atlanta Motorsports Park, and we only introduced the LO206 class in April of this year. The first race had four drivers, the next six, the one after had seven, and by our November round we were attracting out-of-town racers as well as a solid regular group, topping our kart count at 14.

    Unlike Yamaha or PRD, this class is the real deal when it comes to affordability and low-engine maintenance and tweaking. Unfortunately, there are still a couple of things you can do the motor, but nothing is perfect. It is by far the best entry-level class we have to offer and if Nicholas can keep pushing it and get it as a class in a couple of club rounds, I don’t see why he wouldn’t be able to exponentially grow the group.

  • #57953

    brian downing
    Participant

    Great, glad to have it! Hell for $580 I’ll buy one too.
    Point was simply to get racer’s buy-in first, then the class, not other way round. Englishtown is killing us with their crossfit, parcours weekends.
    Racing is dying here and what we need are large classes. If LO206 can bring it, great.

    We were the lone Yamaha Jr. entry at Englishtown first weekend 2015, yes 1 entry. We had to hurry and buy a different motor. Went cheap, bought a PRD; typical weekend was 4 entries. Now X30 for ’16. Life’s short and I enjoy the racing, so I’d rather spend it once, and get it right than spend it twice and have a motor that’s just for practice(actually, it’s very nice having a practice motor. :)

  • #58466

    brian downing
    Participant

    @brad, it’s done.

    New Jersey Sprint Series has announced the LO206 Jr and Sr classes for 2016.

    This message on their Facebook page is just a few hours old

    New for 2016:
    Orgain Kart Race Of Champions(K.R.O.C.)
    Presented by New Jersey Sprint Series
    June 10-12, 2016 New Jersey Motorsports Park
    on Full track/Tempest
    Class structure coming soon- * LO206 Jr & Sr has been added *
    Stay tuned!

    ETown Dates and class structures aren’t usually finalized until end of Jan

    • #58493

      Anonymous

      Great news, will have to reach out to NJSS to get some details.

  • #58480

    Walt Gifford
    Participant

    Point was simply to get racer’s buy-in first, then the class, not other way round.

    You want people to buy a kart and engine package for a class that doesn’t exist? Does that ever work? The advise I see all the time for a newb is to go to the local track and see what’s being run.

    Gif

    FAA certified jet engine and aircraft technician,
    Nicholson Speedway class champion 2001,
    Yamaha KT100 Service Center,
    41 years karting experience

    • #58712

      Troy Berry
      Participant

       

      Gif,

      I would say in the case of the Lo206 I think people should just go ahead and get the package and show up. It has to start somewhere.  We started with 4 Jr. 2 206’s last year at The Northern Nevada Kart Club. Before the season was over we had most Jr 2 converted, some Jr 1’s and the seniors started changing from Clones as they realized it’s a much better package.  Were up to at least 16 in less than one year and growing! I won my second Lo206 package at our  annual Awards banquet on a $20 raffle ticket! Now were going to have another when I get a new chassis for it!!

       

      "The Art is in the details"
      BirelArt AM29 LO206
      Intrepid Cruiser KA 100

  • #61128

    Anonymous

    So for those of you that have not heard, 206 will be coming to NJ and elsewhere in the Northeast in 2016.

    NJSS will be hosting what they’re calling the Karting Race of Champions series, and will be running a 206 Senior class using WKA Gold Cup rules.

    Dates right now are:

    June 10-12 @ NJMP Full Track

    July 1-2 @ Raceway Park for a 200 lap Endurance Race

    October 14-16 @ Raceway Park

    These dates were chose specifically not to interfere with other local karting schedules. Each event is standalone; points aren’t tracked from event to event.

    Additionally, New Hampshire Karting Association is also introducing 206 for 2016. New Hampshire may be a bit of a hike for some of us but they do run at  F1 Outdoors as part of their Interstate Karting Series. Schedule can be found here: http://nhka.net/schedule/

     

  • #61321

    Walt Gifford
    Participant

    Is the race at NJMP being run by the people at Englishtown? What are the entry fees?

    Gif

    FAA certified jet engine and aircraft technician,
    Nicholson Speedway class champion 2001,
    Yamaha KT100 Service Center,
    41 years karting experience

  • #61328

    brian downing
    Participant

    No, the NJMP race is being run by New Jersey Sprint Series
    K.R.O.C. – Kart Race of Champions.
    June 10-12
    Full track

    Entry fees are listed on pre-reg forms, but they’re not posted yet
    They typically post event registration, event by event, there is no pre-season registration or cost info and last year costs varied track by track.

    2015 NJSS Event One, at NJMP, was not the full track so the cost will likely go up.

    In general, they were charging close to $50 per class, per day.

    Their registration fees are separate from track entry, pit passes, and parking.

  • #65135

    Nicholas Bruno
    Participant

    Hi all,

    For those still interested in 206 in NJ, there will be two 206 karts at the E-Town club race tomorrow night. Stop by if yuo are curious or if you have any questions. We will be running the #2 Tony Kart and the #24 Birel.

    P.S. I am the “anonymous” poster above, for some reason my account was deleted.

    Nick

  • #65144

    Walt Gifford
    Participant

    That’s because you’re supposed to use your real name on here.

    FAA certified jet engine and aircraft technician,
    Nicholson Speedway class champion 2001,
    Yamaha KT100 Service Center,
    41 years karting experience

  • #65465

    Nicholas Bruno
    Participant

    Just wanted to check in here again. Myself and a friend were at this past Saturday’s E-Town race and we had a blast. Track is fun and the low speed sections are challenging. Being our first  night event, it was interesting to see how the kart handled differently after the sun went down and the temperature dropped about 15 degrees!

    One curious thing though, we arrived a but early and the track was packed with karts running practice, but as soon as the races started a good number of people cleared out. At that point, why not just stay for the races?

    Either way, we had a great time. Shoutout to John, who was nothing but helpful and accommodating to us newbies.

  • #65474

    Walt Gifford
    Participant

    +1 John’s a great guy.

    I’ve raced up there a few time and there’s so many classes you end up sitting around forever just to run another 10 laps.

    Gif

    FAA certified jet engine and aircraft technician,
    Nicholson Speedway class champion 2001,
    Yamaha KT100 Service Center,
    41 years karting experience

  • #65483

    brian downing
    Participant

    Typically etown has practice on Sat, race on Sun. Beginning last year they began Sat practice 9-5 with races run 5-11 all on Sat, no Sun due to their tight schedule. We’ve always had people that have come Sat to use the track and “practice” but not return Sun for the race. I’m guessing that’s what you saw when the crowd cleared a bit at the end of practice.

    I couldn’t make it this past weekend, personal scheduling issue.

    Just curious, how many LO206s were in the practice? race?

    Was the OP there? He wanted the LO206 class and got it, was he there?

    • #65500

      Nicholas Bruno
      Participant

      Brian,

      It was just myself and a buddy running the 206s. We only ran the race, and ran with the Yamahas.

      Even tough it was only two of us, we saw immediately that the parity in the engines really is as advertised. Drafting is hugely important and I can imagine that drafting in a large pack would be a blast.

  • #65518

    Walt Gifford
    Participant

    Are you the two LO206 guys who are going to Sandyhook this Sunday?

    FAA certified jet engine and aircraft technician,
    Nicholson Speedway class champion 2001,
    Yamaha KT100 Service Center,
    41 years karting experience

  • #66545

    Mike Morrone
    Participant

    I picked up a Margay Ignite K3 LO206 and hope to have it ready for a local race next weekend. Walt, the two guys at sandy hook were Clark Gainer Sr. and Jr. They have two LO206 karts also. See ya at the track!

  • #66560

    Tim Dembowski
    Participant

    What kind of chassis you guys are running for the LO206? Just wondering how well they work with the TAG/Rotax stuff that’s out there or if you really need a softer 4cycle style chassis that flexes more.

  • #66579

    Walt Gifford
    Participant

    Depends on how tall and heavy in the upper body you are.

    Gif

    FAA certified jet engine and aircraft technician,
    Nicholson Speedway class champion 2001,
    Yamaha KT100 Service Center,
    41 years karting experience

  • #66583

    John Ferris
    Participant

    Lo206 racers will have a chance to show their stuff at the first major event for Lo206 in New Jersey June 10-12 (practice and 2 full days of racing) at the NJ sprint series race at New Jersey Motorsports Park.  This race will be on the full 1.03 track. Lo206 racers from NY,NJ Maryland and more will challange this track.  Briggs and Stratton is the Class Sponsor.  We are going to establish Lo206 in  the East with this one.  If you are new or old to racing , come and support your class.  Lo206 is the fastest going class in the US.  All are welcome, WKA Briggs rules any body work ok.  More info at http://www.NJSPRINTSERIES.COM

  • #66682

    Clark Gaynor Sr.
    Participant

    Great to hear folks.  It’s about time someone gave the 206 program a chance here in the East!  Unfortunately we’ll be a Sandy Hook that same Sunday with two of our own 206’s.  It happens to be a Maryland Series Race, which we’d like to support.  At their first event, we had the only one, but this time there should be at least three or four Sr 206’s.

    I wish you folks the very best, and maybe in 2017 we can all get together and form a true 206 series of sorts.

    Please let us all know how it went.

    Clark Gaynor Sr.

     

  • #66712

    Walt Gifford
    Participant

    What gear for SandyHook?

    Thanks,
    Gif

    FAA certified jet engine and aircraft technician,
    Nicholson Speedway class champion 2001,
    Yamaha KT100 Service Center,
    41 years karting experience

  • #66744

    Clark Gaynor Sr.
    Participant

    Walt, we ran a 15/60 which seemed about right.  As you know Sandy Hook is real tight, so it was on the limiter about half way down the straight.  But I also assume after a few more start showing up, lap times will start to drop as well as rear axle teeth!  You know how that goes.  My son is also 25 pounds over the 375 limit, so that wasn’t helping either.

    Clark Sr.

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