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    Carl Beavers
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    Title says it all. Is SKUSA moving away from the stock Honda platform and going to spec another shifter motor? Heard some rumors but have not found anything concrete.

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    #82617

    William Martin
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    Well, I sure don’t know, but that would be about the same as shooting off both feet…unless the supply of Honda engines became zero, that sounds like a silly idea.

    #82618

    Jim Campeau
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    Google Iame shifter engines and see what’s available

    #82646

    FREDDY SANDOVAL
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    I highly doubt it, with the classes as big as they are, and people happy with that formula, I think it’s all rumors.

    People been talking about low supply for almost a decade now, they were doing the same thing back whey the 99 engine was ran, and no changes.

    Car. Where did you hear this at? Unless there is a headline news or announcement about it from Tom or a supplier I would have a hard time believing it. This formula is still very strong and still growing fast.

    #82668

    Charles Skowron
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    Forward the interview from 3 weeks ago and start at 24:20 . I think the answer is pretty obvious, from Tom himself.

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    #82693

    Carl Beavers
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    Exacting what I was looking for. Thanks!

    #82744

    William Martin
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    Hmm, well, change happens. Usually somebody’s ox gets gored in the process, hope Tom can pull off a good compromise when the time comes.

     

    #83515

    Spencer Uzri
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    TaG-ICC/KZ class.  Just saying.

    The different TaG-KZ brands are all pretty similar in performance, but each mfgr has a slightly different take.  At SIMA Raceway, the Tag-KZ & SM run together in the 125 shifter class.  Good racing, & the engines are pretty robust.

    #83908

    Dennis Chappell
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    New Pro Shifter class iame 175cc soon to come. Why not it is Tom’s (Importer) Motor be crazy not to do this. Honda is done as we know it.

     

    #84450

    Spencer Uzri
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    New Pro Shifter class iame 175cc soon to come. Why not it is Tom’s (Importer) Motor be crazy not to do this. Honda is done as we know it.

    While shifters aren’t cheapest thing in karting, & it will be interesting to see what the market can bare.  That’s a nice engine, though $6K is getting up there.  My TM K9ES (125 cc) cost $4K back in ’07, which isn’t cheap.  At current exchange rates, it lists for ~$5K.

    I guess, to me, it seems better to allow all the TaG-KZ makes (TM, IAME, Maxter) into the market to compete.  Keep in mind, there is a fair amount of parts commonality between the ICC engine makes (not everything, of course), which mitigates the notion of proprietary issues with parts to a certain degree.  Set up a spec that emphasizes reliability standards/metrics to avoid the cost spiral synonymous with the ICC classes.  Market wise, it makes more sense for the consumer.

    A sole engine for all creates a situation of monopoly dependence that is prone to issues like the this current situation with the Honda, where the mfger is/will be withdrawing the product for whatever reason, & everyone is left scrambling for a replacement, or else they bail because it’s cost prohibitive &/or there’s a perception that the class is unstable.

    My opinion.

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