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    • #31125
      David Cole
      Keymaster

      This weekend will see history be made in the sport of karting. The inaugural Modesto Grand Prix is set to host the 2014 Superkarts! USA Pro Tour SummerNationals event. The Northern California city is rolling out the red carpet for over 240 karters from across the country and around the globe, competing in four TaG categories and four Stock Moto divisions.

      EKN will be there for its Trackside Live program from Friday and into Sunday night. Follow the top-10 updates here, along with other breaking news, and be sure to follow the Facebook, Twitter, and Instagram accounts for some exclusive footage and news.

      David Cole - EKN Managing Editor

    • #31269
      David Cole
      Keymaster

      For complete coverage, head to the EKN Event Page

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    • #31293
      Troy Berry
      Participant

      I would like to say best of luck to the drivers from Reno this weekend.  Aiden Hawkins and Beck Marshal in Tag Cadet, Keven Marshall in Tag Masters and Skusa 2013 Supernats podium finisher Jess Peterson in Tag Senior. One of the small side stories worth mention is the return of the American made Invader kart to the “big stage” in US Karting.  Cole Nelson, son of legendary Invader founder Jeff Nelson has revived the brand at the new Nevada Kartsport shop in Reno Nevada. The Nevada Kartsport team will be there and Aiden Hawkins will run the only American made chassis in Tag Cadet. Look for Aiden to be fast right out of the trailer, this kid can get up on the wheel.  Look for the other Reno drivers to be fast as well. Safe racing to all our drivers from the Northern Nevada Kart Club and all the drivers this weekend.

       

      "The Art is in the details"
      BirelArt AM29 LO206
      Intrepid Cruiser KA 100

    • #31297
      Jason Bane
      Participant

      Will practice broadcasts be available live? If so where? I looked on race monitor and didn’t see a link.

    • #31300
      David Cole
      Keymaster

      8:30pm PDT is live at http://www.ekartingnews.com/live

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    • #31341
      Dave Lehmann
      Participant

      D.C. will be driving the heli-copter while Rob calls the races

    • #31344
      David Cole
      Keymaster

      S4 Master Sat. Qualifying

      1. Gian Cavaciuti – 49.171
      2. Trevor McAlister
      3. Matt Hamilton
      4. Fernando Diaz
      5. Brian Fisher
      6. Richard Heistand
      7. Justin Bennett
      8. Darren Elliott
      9. Chris Jennings
      10. Jordon Musser

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    • #31346
      David Cole
      Keymaster

      TaG Cadet Sat. Qualifying

      1. Lance Fenderson – 55.759
      2. Lachlan DeFrancesco
      3. Michael d’Orlando
      4. Myles Farhan
      5. Kaylen Frederick
      6. Jagger Jones
      7. Dezel West
      8. Jace Jones
      9. Nicholas d’Orlando
      10. Tomas Mejia

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    • #31347
      David Cole
      Keymaster

      TaG Junior Sat. Qualifying

      1. Chase Farley – 50.733
      2. Luiz Branquinho
      3. Neil Verhagen
      4. Ethan Barrett
      5. Trenton Sparks
      6. David Malukas
      7. Christian Brooks
      8. Phillippe Denes
      9. Davey Manthei Jr.
      10. Luis Perez Jr.

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    • #31349
      David Cole
      Keymaster

      TaG Master Sat. Qualifying

      1. John Lewis – 51.348
      2. Ethan Wilson
      3. Larry Fraser
      4. Ron Hyde
      5. Billy Cleavelin
      6. Kevin Manning
      7. Kurt Fisher
      8. Dave Kunicki
      9. Vatche Tatikian
      10. Paul Hohlbein

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    • #31351
      David Cole
      Keymaster

      S2 Sat. Qualifying

      1. Kyle Kirkwood – 48.388
      2. Kolton Griffin
      3. Austin Garrison
      4. Loris Ronzano
      5. Morgan Healey
      6. Jonathan Kotyk
      7. Alan Michel
      8. Ryan Rudolph
      9. Miguel Lopez
      10. Pete Yerkovich Jr.

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    • #31352
      David Cole
      Keymaster

      S5 Sat. Qualifying

      1. Trenton Estep – 49.889
      2. Christian Brooks
      3. Austin Versteeg
      4. Mathias Ramirez
      5. Jacob Loomis
      6. Jason Pettit
      7. Raul Guzman
      8. Anthony Sawyer
      9. Andretta Young
      10. Max Hewitt

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    • #31353
      David Cole
      Keymaster

      TaG Senior Sat. Qualifying

      1. Jake Craig – 49.938
      2. Andrick Zeen
      3. Chris Cricca
      4. Brenden Baker
      5. Remo Ruscitti
      6. Austin Elliott
      7. Jordan Redlin
      8. Dustin Stross
      9. Andrew Zimmer
      10. Louie Pagano

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    • #31354
      David Cole
      Keymaster

      S1 Sat. Qualifying

      1. Oliver Askew – 48.278
      2. Ron White
      3. Jake French
      4. Phillip Orcic
      5. Nick Neri
      6. Davide Fore
      7. Bonnier Moulton
      8. Jimmy McNeil
      9. Billy Musgrave
      10. Jordon Lennox

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    • #31355
      David Cole
      Keymaster

      S4 Sat. Heat 1

      1. Trevor McAlister +0.970
      2. Gian Cavaciuti
      3. Fernando Diaz
      4. Darren Elliott
      5. Richard Heistand
      6. Jordon Musser
      7. Brian Fisher
      8. Rob Logan
      9. Chris Jennings
      10. Mirko Mizzoni

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    • #31356
      David Cole
      Keymaster

      TaG Cadet Sat. Heat 1

      1. Michael d’Orlando +0.087
      2. Lachlan DeFrancesco
      3. Lance Fenderson
      4. Myles Farhan
      5. Jagger Jones
      6. Kaylen Frederick
      7. Tomas Mejia
      8. Colin Queen
      9. Dick Yu
      10. Dezel West

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    • #31357
      David Cole
      Keymaster

      TaG Junior Sat. Heat 1

      1. Neil Verhagen +0.143
      2. David Malukas
      3. Ethan Barrett
      4. Petr Ptacek Jr.
      5. Nick Brueckner
      6. Christian Brooks
      7. Trenton Sparks
      8. Royal McKee
      9. Davey Manthei Jr.
      10. Phillippe Denes

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    • #31358
      David Cole
      Keymaster

      TaG Master Sat. Heat 1

      1. Ethan Wilson +1.121
      2. Kevin Manning
      3. Larry Fraser
      4. Billy Cleavelin
      5. Ron Hyde
      6. Vatche Tatikian
      7. Jim Russell Jr.
      8. Anthony Honeywell
      9. Kurt Fisher
      10. Aarron Cunningham

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    • #31361
      David Cole
      Keymaster

      S2 Sat. Heat 1

      1. Morgan Healey +1.779
      2. Jonathan Kotyk
      3. Loris Ronzano
      4. Ryan Rudolph
      5. Alan Michel
      6. Cabot Bigham
      7. Kolton Griffin
      8. Austin Garrison
      9. Pete Yerkovich Jr.
      10. Jordan Dick

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    • #31362
      David Cole
      Keymaster

      S5 Sat. Heat 1

      1. Trenton Estep +1.744
      2. Mathias Ramirez
      3. Christian Brooks
      4. Raul Guzman
      5. Andretta Young
      6. Anthony Sawyer
      7. Sara Brinkac
      8. Evan Roshak
      9. Ryan Lewis
      10. Max Hewitt

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    • #31363
      David Cole
      Keymaster

      TaG Senior Sat. Heat 1

      1. Andrick Zeen +1.451
      2. Jake Craig
      3. Remo Ruscitti
      4. Louie Pagano
      5. Andrew Zimmer
      6. Yurik Carvalho
      7. Chris Cricca
      8. Dustin Stross
      9. Blaine Rocha
      10. Luke Selliken

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    • #31364
      David Cole
      Keymaster

      S1 Sat. Heat 1

      1. Nick Neri +0.357
      2. Phillip Orcic
      3. Oliver Askew
      4. Jake French
      5. Davide Fore
      6. Ron White
      7. Billy Musgrave
      8. Jordon Lennox
      9. Bonnier Moulton
      10. Ryan Kinnear

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    • #31366
      David Cole
      Keymaster

      S4 Sat. Heat 2

      1. Gian Cavaciuti +3.712
      2. Trevor McAlister
      3. Darren Elliott
      4. Fernando Diaz
      5. Rob Logan
      6. Jordon Musser
      7. Justin Bennett
      8. Brian Fisher
      9. Nick Firestone
      10. Richard Heistand

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    • #31369
      David Cole
      Keymaster

      TaG Cadet Sat. Heat 2

      1. Michael d’Orlando +2.953
      2. Jagger Jones
      3. Lachlan DeFrancesco
      4. Trey Brown
      5. Oliver Calvo
      6. Dante Yu
      7. Jace Jones
      8. Colin Queen
      9. Kaylen Frederick
      10. Marco Kacic

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    • #31370
      David Cole
      Keymaster

      TaG Junior Sat. Heat 2

      1. David Malukas +0.272
      2. Ethan Barrett
      3. Nick Brueckner
      4. Neil Verhagen
      5. Petr Ptacek Jr.
      6. Christian Brooks
      7. Phillippe Denes
      8. Davey Mantei Jr.
      9. Royal McKee
      10. Sting Ray Robb

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    • #31372
      David Cole
      Keymaster

      TaG Master Sat. Heat 2

      1. Ethan Wilson +2.784
      2. Billy Cleavelin
      3. Larry Fraser
      4. Kevin Manning
      5. Ron Hyde
      6. Vatche Tatikian
      7. Jim Russell Jr.
      8. John Lewis
      9. Aarron Cunningham
      10. Dave Kunicki

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    • #31373
      David Cole
      Keymaster

      S2 Sat. Heat 2

      1. Jonathan Kotyk +0.381
      2. Austin Garrison
      3. Morgan Healey
      4. Ryan Rudolph
      5. Miguel Lopez
      6. Loris Ronzano
      7. Cabot Bigham
      8. Alex Tartaglia
      9. Blake Murdock
      10. Will Preston

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    • #31376
      David Cole
      Keymaster

      S5 Sat. Heat 2

      1. Mathias Ramierz +0.100
      2. Trenton Estep
      3. Raul Guzman
      4. Austin Versteeg
      5. Jacob Loomis
      6. Anthony Sawyer
      7. Andretta Young
      8. Max Hewitt
      9. Evan Roshak
      10. Ryan Lewis

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    • #31377
      David Cole
      Keymaster

      TaG Senior Sat. Heat 2

      1. Andrick Zeen +0.663
      2. Remo Ruscitti
      3. Jake Craig
      4. Blaine Rocha
      5. Yurik Carvalho
      6. Chris Cricca
      7. Tad Funakoshi
      8. Travis Lowe
      9. Louie Pagano
      10. Jess Peterson

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    • #31378
      David Cole
      Keymaster

      S1 Sat. Heat 2

      1. Oliver Askew +1.389
      2. Nick Neri
      3. Phillip Orcic
      4. Jordon Lennox
      5. Jake French
      6. Davide FOre
      7. Bonnier Moulton
      8. Billy Musgrave
      9. Fritz Leesmann
      10. Jimmy McNeil

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    • #31379
      David Cole
      Keymaster

      S4 Sat. Main

      1. Gian Cavaciuti +1.931
      2. Darren Elliott
      3. Jordon Musser
      4. Rob Logan
      5. Richard Heistand
      6. Mirko Mizzoni
      7. Justin Bennett
      8. Chris Jennings
      9. Nick Firestone
      10. Mike Mantel

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    • #31381
      David Cole
      Keymaster

      TaG Cadet Sat. Main

      1. Trey Brown +0l065
      2. Jagger Jones
      3. Lachlan DeFrancesco
      4. Lance Fenderson
      5. Colin Queen
      6. Kaylen Frederick
      7. Dante Yu
      8. Sam Paley
      9. Payton Durrant
      10. David Morales

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    • #31384
      David Cole
      Keymaster

      TaG Junior Sat. Main

      1. David Malukas +3.079
      2. Nick Brueckner
      3. Neil Verhagen
      4. Christian Brooks
      5. Ethan Barrett
      6. Phillippe Denes
      7. Petr Ptacek Jr.
      8. Royal McKee
      9. Luis Perez Jr.
      10. Chase Farley

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    • #31385
      David Cole
      Keymaster

      TaG Master Sat. Main

      1. Ethan Wilson +0.526
      2. Billy Cleavelin
      3. Kevin Manning
      4. Vatche Tatikian
      5. Anthony Honeywell
      6. Jim Russell Jr.
      7. John Lewis
      8. Kevin Marshall
      9. Dave Kunicki
      10. Carl Freese

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    • #31386
      David Cole
      Keymaster

      S2 Sat. Main

      1. Austin Garrison +0.863
      2. Jonathan Kotyk
      3. Kyle Kirkwood
      4. Ryan Rudolph
      5. Loris Ronzano
      6. Kolton Griffin
      7. Morgan Healey
      8. Luke Shanahan
      9. Steve Reasoner
      10. Cabot Bigham

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    • #31387
      David Cole
      Keymaster

      S5 Sat. Main

      1. Trenton Estep +0.094
      2. Mathias Ramirez
      3. Austin Versteeg
      4. Raul Guzman
      5. Jacob Loomis
      6. Anthony Sawyer
      7. Ryan P. Lewis
      8. Evan Roshak
      9. Christian Brooks
      10. Sara Brinkac

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    • #31388
      David Cole
      Keymaster

      TaG Senior Sat. Main

      1. Andrick Zeen +0.865
      2. Brendan Baker
      3. Jake Craig
      4. Blaine Rocha
      5. Remo Ruscitti
      6. Jordan Redlin
      7. Bill McLaughlin
      8. Luke Selliken
      9. Chris Cricca
      10. Yurik Carvalho

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    • #31389
      David Cole
      Keymaster

      S1 Sat. Main

      1. Jordon Lennox +0.172
      2. Phillip Orcic
      3. Nick Neri
      4. Oliver Askew
      5. Davide Fore
      6. Jake French
      7. Billy Musgrave
      8. Cody Hodgson
      9. Connor Wagner
      10. Danny Formal

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    • #31402
      David Cole
      Keymaster

      S4 Sun. Qualifying

      1. Matt Hamilton – 48.148
      2. Gian Cavaciuti
      3. Darren Elliott
      4. Mirko Mizzoni
      5. Richard Heistand
      6. Trevor McAlister
      7. Fernando Diaz
      8. Jordon Musser
      9. Chris Jennings
      10. Rob Logan

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    • #31403
      David Cole
      Keymaster

      TaG Cadet Sun. Qualifying

      1. Lachlan DeFrancesco – 55.105
      2. Jagger Jones
      3. Lance Fenderson
      4. Michael d’Orlando
      5. Kaylen Frederick
      6. Anthony Willis
      7. Dick Yu
      8. Jace Jones
      9. Colin Queen
      10. Trey Brown

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    • #31405
      David Cole
      Keymaster

      TaG Junior Sun. Qualifying

      1. Chase Farley – 50.277
      2. David Malukas
      3. Nick Brueckner
      4. Neil Verhagen
      5. Luis Perez Jr.
      6. Phillippe Denes
      7. Luiz Branquinho
      8. Sting Ray Robb
      9. Petr Ptacek Jr.
      10. Christian Brooks

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    • #31406
      David Cole
      Keymaster

      TaG Master Sun. Qualifying

      1. Anthony Honeywell – 50.496
      2. Billy Cleavelin
      3. Larry Fraser
      4. Ethan Wilson
      5. Kevin Manning
      6. Vatche Tatikian
      7. Ron Hyde
      8. John Lewis
      9. Jim Russell Jr.
      10. Aarron Cunningham

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    • #31407
      David Cole
      Keymaster

      S2 Sun. Qualifying

      1. Kyle Kirkwood – 47.811
      2. Mordan Healey
      3. Loris Ronzano
      4. Austin Garrison
      5. Austin Schimmel
      6. Jonathan Kotyk
      7. Jarred Campbell
      8. Miguel Lopez
      9. Kolton Griffin
      10. Jordan Dick

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    • #31408
      David Cole
      Keymaster

      S5 Sun. Qualifying

      1. Christian Brooks – 49.605
      2. Raul Guzman
      3. Andretta Young
      4. Ryan P. Lewis
      5. Max Hewitt
      6. Anthony Sawyer
      7. Sara Brinkac

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    • #31409
      David Cole
      Keymaster

      S1 Sun. Qualifying

      1. Oliver Askew – 47.450
      2. Jake French
      3. Jordon Lennox
      4. Billy Musgrave
      5. Nick Neri
      6. Phillip Orcic
      7. Davide Fore
      8. Ron White
      9. Cody Hodgson
      10. Milan Dontje

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    • #31410
      David Cole
      Keymaster

      TaG Senior Sun. Qualifying

      1. Andrick Zeen – 49.147
      2. Blaine Rocha
      3. Brenden Baker
      4. Andrew Zimmer
      5. Jake Craig
      6. Chris Cricca
      7. Bill McLaughlin
      8. Jordan Redlin
      9. Remo Ruscitti
      10. Tad Funakoshi

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    • #31413
      David Cole
      Keymaster

      S4 Sun. Heat 1/2

      1. Matt Hamilton +0.066
      2. Gian Cavaciuti
      3. Trevor McAlister
      4. Mirko Mizzoni
      5. Darren Elliott
      6. Jordon Musser
      7. Rob Logan
      8. Nick Firestone
      9. Mike Mantel
      10. Robert Marks

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    • #31415
      David Cole
      Keymaster

      TaG Cadet Heat 1/2

      1. Michael d’Orlando +0.111
      2. Lance Fenderson
      3. Jagger Jones
      4. Lachlan DeFrancesco
      5. Jace Jones
      6. Kaylen Frederick
      7. Sam Paley
      8. Trey Brown
      9. Nicholas d’Orlando
      10. Tomas Mejia

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    • #31416
      David Cole
      Keymaster

      TaG Junior Sun. Heat 1/2

      1. David Malukas +0.278
      2. Nick Brueckner
      3. Chase Farley
      4. Christian Brooks
      5. Luis Perez Jr.
      6. Phillippe Denes
      7. Anthony Sawyer
      8. Ethan Barrett
      9. Sting Ray Robb
      10. Hannah Grisham

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    • #31417
      David Cole
      Keymaster

      TaG Master Sun. Heat 1/2

      1. Billy Cleavelin +0.131
      2. Anthony Honeywell
      3. Ethan Wilson
      4. Jim Russell Jr.
      5. Vatche Tatikian
      6. Larry Fraser
      7. Kevin Manning
      8. Kevin Marshall
      9. Paul Hohlbein
      10. Michael Grossi

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    • #31419
      David Cole
      Keymaster

      S2 Sun. Heat 1/2

      1. Austin Garrison +2.630
      2. Morgan Healey
      3. Austin Schimmel
      4. Jonathan Kotyk
      5. Loris Ronzano
      6. Jarred Campbell
      7. Jordan Dick
      8. Miguel Lopez
      9. Grayson Browne
      10. Steve Reasoner

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    • #31422
      David Cole
      Keymaster

      S5 Sun. Heat 1/2

      1. Christian Brooks +0.337
      2. Raul Guzman
      3. Andretta Young
      4. Max Hewitt
      5. Anthony Sawyer
      6. Ryan P. Lewis
      7. Sara Brinkac
      8. Evan Roshak

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    • #31423
      David Cole
      Keymaster

      S1 Sun. Heat 1/2

      1. Oliver Askew +0.834
      2. Jordon Lennox
      3. Nick Neri
      4. Davide Fore
      5. Billy Musgrave
      6. Jake French
      7. Milan Dontje
      8. Ron White
      9. Phillip Orcic
      10. Christian Schureman

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    • #31424
      David Cole
      Keymaster

      TaG Senior Sun. Heat 1/2

      1. Andrick Zeen +0.358
      2. Blaine Rocha
      3. Brenden Baker
      4. Jake Craig
      5. Remo Ruscitti
      6. Chris Cricca
      7. Bill McLaughlin
      8. Louie Pagano
      9. Tad Funakoshi
      10. Yurik Carvalho

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    • #31426
      David Cole
      Keymaster

      S4 Sun. Main

      1. Gian Cavaciuti +0.711
      2. Mirko Mizzoni
      3. Matt Hamilton
      4. Rob Logan
      5. Darren Elliott
      6. Chris Jennings
      7. Nick Firestone
      8. Mike Mantel
      9. Rene Martinelli
      10. Jorge de la Huerta

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    • #31430
      David Cole
      Keymaster

      TaG Junior Sun. Main

      1. David Malukas +5.954
      2. Christian Brooks
      3. Nick Brueckner
      4. Anthony Sawyer
      5. Phillippe Denes
      6. Sting Ray Robb
      7. Luis Perez Jr.
      8. Chase Farley
      9. Luiz Branquinho
      10. Hannah Grisham

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    • #31431
      David Cole
      Keymaster

      TaG Master Sun. Main

      1. Billy Cleavelin +0.110
      2. Ethan Wilson
      3. Jim Russel Jr.
      4. Anthony Honeywell
      5. Kevin Manning
      6. Ron Hyde
      7. Corey Mitchell
      8. Paul Hohlbein
      9. Carl Freese
      10. Michael Grossi

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    • #31432
      David Cole
      Keymaster

      S2 Sun. Main

      1. Austin Garrison _0.528
      2. Loris Ronzano
      3. Morgan Healey
      4. Jarred Campbell
      5. Miguel Lopez
      6. Jordan Dick
      7. Jonathan Kotyk
      8. Carter Williams
      9. Daniel de la Calle
      10. Steve Reasoner

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    • #31433
      David Cole
      Keymaster

      S5 Sun. Main

      1. Raul Guzman +0.064
      2. Christian Brooks
      3. Anthony Sawyer
      4. Ryan P. Lewis
      5. Max Hewitt
      6. Sara Brinkac
      7. Evan Roshak
      8. Andretta Young

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    • #31435
      David Cole
      Keymaster

      S1 Sun. Main

      1. Jordon Lennox _0.563
      2. Nick Neri
      3. Davide Fore
      4. Milan Dontje
      5. Ryan Kinnear
      6. Ron White
      7. Christian Schureman
      8. Joey Wimsett
      9. Cody Hodgson
      10. Billy Musgrave

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    • #31437
      David Cole
      Keymaster

      TaG Senior Sun. Main

      1. Blaine Rocha +0.318
      2. Jake Craig
      3. Yurik Carvalho
      4. Jordan Redlin
      5. Chris Cricca
      6. Louie Pagano
      7. Tad Funakoshi
      8. Nick Martin
      9. Bill McLaughlin
      10. Jess Peterson

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    • #31438
      David Cole
      Keymaster

      TaG Cadet Sun. Main

      1. Michael d’Orlando +1.182
      2. Jagger Jones
      3. Lance Fenderson
      4. Lachlan DeFrancesco
      5. Trey Brown
      6. Kaylen Frederick
      7. Nicholas d’Orlando
      8. Tomas Mejia
      9. Sam Paley
      10. Dick Yu

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    • #31499
      Keith Bridgeman
      Participant

      Ok, I just have to.   I’ve never seen so many crazy posts on a race as there have been on Facebook on this race.   Not a peep on here?

      http://bridgemanbroskarting.blogspot.com/

    • #31500
      David Cole
      Keymaster

      It’s social media. People are afraid that we will ‘ban’ or ‘block’ comments made. However, if someone has a valid argument or opinion, we always allow it. People are entitled to their opinion, whether we agree or not. What we don’t allow is bashing or blatant insults on people. That has always been our guideline for the 10 years I have moderated the forums and been the site editor.

      David Cole - EKN Managing Editor

    • #31501
      Evan Fraser
      Participant

      I was quite curious myself.  I didn’t see much on Facebook, but I was wondering after Rob’s Morning Coffee column if things turned out as he had hoped in terms of driver conduct.

      Evan Fraser

      #43 - Formula K FK01 / Briggs LO206

      West Coast Kart Club

    • #31503
      Jon Romenesko
      Participant

      Yeah, it definitely sounded like a crazy, brutal event on several different fronts.  But that’s just based on what I saw flying around Facebook/Twitter/Instagram…I wasn’t there!  I’m also interested in hearing from some of the people who were on the ground.

      GP10/CR125
      S2 Semi-Pro Stock Moto - SKUSA Rocky Mountain ProKart Challenge

      http://theslipangle.com/

    • #31504
      David Cole
      Keymaster

      Opinions seem to be all over the board. Some felt the event was terrible/the worst street race ever. Others believe it was a great first time event/fast track. Are there things that can be done to make the event better, YES. Should there have been things changed on the track to make it safer, YES (some things were done, some things were not). Did the sport get great exposure to well over 3,000 people that may have never seen karting before, YES. Did a number of karts get bent up because of accidents, YES. Does it happen at any street race you attend, YES.

      There are a lot of questions and comments surrounding the event, as we hope to express in upcoming columns.

      David Cole - EKN Managing Editor

    • #31505
      Evan Fraser
      Participant

      I will await said columns eagerly.

      Evan Fraser

      #43 - Formula K FK01 / Briggs LO206

      West Coast Kart Club

    • #31530
      Tyson Henry
      Participant

      This is just my opinion, and maybe I got it all wrong…….

      The number of karts totaled at Modesto is a direct correlation to the level of aggression displayed. It seems at all SKUSA events the aggression level is, in general, much higher than at a club level race, and not  in a good way. On a street course there is inherently more danger, no matter WHAT is done. Seems like a lot of drivers thought they were going to be able to set a wheel off in the grass…

      For direct comparison, look at the LSGP in Lockhart. Were karts crashed? Sure, plenty (I did it). But I would say the level of carnage, judging by pictures and social media posts, was on a whole other level at Modesto. Why is that? It’s not like the LSGP track was slow (not sure what speeds were being hit at Modesto but at Lockhart it was about 90) and less dangerous per say. The overall surface and track seemed pretty good at Modesto, save the chicane and maybe a few other parts. Once again, direct comparison, Lockhart suffered from issues as well. There were plenty of sketchy zones and not every possible danger can be covered. People weren’t out in force complaining about that event.

      So tell me, whats the difference?

    • #31545
      Troy Berry
      Participant

      I am going to throw in a few observations. We came from Reno on Sunday afternoon to watch the finals and support our local drivers from the Northern Nevada Kart Club who were racing. I am the track announcer at our local club. I grew up racing Macs on Bugs, a few years ago I raced Tag Masters  at our club, and now my 11 year old races a Cadet Clone in our local  club.  I went to the Supernat’s last year for the 1st time to watch and we had a Skusa race in Reno a few years ago as part of the NorCal series.  These are the only Skusa races I have attended, so I really don’t  have much experience or background with this series. These are just my thoughts from a semi informed spectators perspective.

      I made a point of watching and talking to the locals to gauge their reaction to the whole thing.  The whole event had a cool vibe to it for sure. The drivers were screaming down the city streets  and it was loud, fast and exciting.  It was obviously a “pro” level race for Karting. Which for the casual observer or even an interested kid and parent was also the 1st problem. If you are trying to bring karting to the masses, then this was a hard sell way to do it. Sure it brought out more spectators, but how many of them would think they could jump in and do it at this level.  If you had never seen karting before , this race might really intimidate a family from wanting to join in. Didn’t they at least have some concession karts in Lancaster for local dignitaries to play on. How would an average family feel that they could get into this sport based upon this experience?

      Which brings me to my second point. What was up with charging so much extra  for a pit pass and having the pits and grid so far removed from  public view.  This did not give the average person a chance to talk to teams or even see what goes on behind the scenes. Maybe a national event is not the place for this, but they make it easier at the Supernats.

      As far as the racing, it looked (and proved to be)very dangerous to me as an experienced racer, let alone to the casual observer. Not really  the image or condition for the masses to think, “hey, I want to race or get my kid involved.  Other motor sports enthusiast  for sure, but a newbie family would be very intimidated if they didn’t know how we race and work with the kids out at the clubs.  The track was exciting but it looked way too narrow to me, with the barriers right up against each other and the curbs on most corner exits. No room for any give, no margin for error.  If you overcooked it, you were done.  Also, the orange water barriers that were used had a bad profile for the size of kart tires. It was clear  karts were climbing up on them if they made any contact at speeds. Just really unfortunate geometry there.  Didn’t see any hay bales except behind barriers, up against poles.  I see a lot of  bales at RIGP.  The other thing I noticed, I’m guessing due to some of the fairly narrow streets, was the problem of crowning. As the karts were transitioning across the obvious crowning as they changed direction in the corners, it would upset the karts.. Although the surface was pretty smooth, this would un weight a lot of karts as they went through the corners. You could really see the heads bobbing around a lot. It was clear on corner exit that many lost their grip and bounced into the barriers.

      I really hope this kind of event can continue to happen on the West coast, but with a few tweeks for sure. Better bleachers and viewing areas,  lower  and more crossover bridges would help from a spectators perspective.

       

      "The Art is in the details"
      BirelArt AM29 LO206
      Intrepid Cruiser KA 100

    • #31625
      Bob Vehring
      Participant

      I have 28 years in promoting kart racing. Troy’s post is 100% correct. I’ve read people boasting of the big number of people this race has reached. Remember the impression that exposure leaves can be either good or bad. I see little good coming from this that would encourage new people or parents with kids wanting to give this a shot. This race has little to no comparison with how most people get started in kart racing.

      When promoting, the impression you leave is far more important then the number you reach.

    • #31626
      mark waller
      Participant

      Maybe I missed it being reported somewhere, but is there any update on Garrett Boone?  Heard he was pretty badly hurt.

    • #31629
      David Cole
      Keymaster

      From our FB post Sunday morning: S1 driver Garrett Boone is staying at the local hospital for observation next two days – broken rib, bruised lung, and a laceration on forehead. The Boone family appreciates all the well wishes being sent in.

      We learned he had broken more than one rib, and he is at home recovering. We send our best to Garrett and his family as he recovers from his injuries.

      David Cole - EKN Managing Editor

    • #31636
      Keith Bridgeman
      Participant

      Regardless of how the even went.  You have to give SKUSA credit for trying something so ambitious.   Many things can and need to be changed and I’m sure they are all being looked at.

      There is one for sure way to NOT get in front of new potential karters and that’s not doing anything at all.

       

      Also I never saw SKUSA claiming this was aimed at trying to get new people into the sport.   This was a high level race as part of their championship.   There are no beginner kid kart classes here.      The last Supercross or Motocross race I went to I didn’t see much in the way of how to get my son racing at the local track.   It was meant for pure entertainment for the best.   Can you seek out those answers.   Yes but not every race is meant to do this.

       

       

       

       

       

       

      http://bridgemanbroskarting.blogspot.com/

    • #31647
      Bob Vehring
      Participant

      Keith, I never meant to suggest that SKUSA did say that. My comments are in general aimed at the comments that are now, well everywhere, some are pointing to that

      I understand that a race like this will interest some, others not at all.

      Many of the things I read suggest the people of Modesto are not happy, seems much of this was at tax payers exspence, more then anything, I think those people will be determining the future

    • #31652
      Bob Vehring
      Participant

      Not tryin to provoke any fighting, but here is an example of what I’m seeing. I didn’t go looking for this, just show up on my FB. I might see this differently if I saw alot of good close racing PR showing up, but honestly I didn’t even hear about this race until things went bad, now this is what tens of thousands are seeing as Kart racing

    • #31653
      jim lewis
      Participant

      Does anyone have a link where there are videos of the racing from the Modesto event?

      The above clip is just of the cadet kids. That is what you get when you put a 10 year old in a 20 hp kart and say get to the front kid. The drafting in that class is a recipe for pile ups.

    • #31654
      Gary Osterholt
      Participant

      Go to Youtube.com and search Modesto Kart, you’ll find alot of videos.

       

      Gary Osterholt
      GO Designs, LLC
      http://www.godesigns.us

    • #31655
      Gary Osterholt
      Participant

      Gary Osterholt
      GO Designs, LLC
      http://www.godesigns.us

    • #31656
      Gary Osterholt
      Participant

      Also search Modesto GP

      Gary Osterholt
      GO Designs, LLC
      http://www.godesigns.us

    • #31657
      David Cole
      Keymaster

      David Cole - EKN Managing Editor

    • #31658
      Bob Vehring
      Participant

      Are there viewing areas not shone on the vids? I was expecting spectators lining the track, I see some here and there but I was thinking it would be packed

    • #31659
      David Cole
      Keymaster

      Are there viewing areas not shone on the vids? I was expecting spectators lining the track, I see some here and there but I was thinking it would be packed

      The video EKN did was the first practice, Friday was free, but the temperature was well over 100 degrees. Plus, the PA was not working so people had no idea what was going on. Saturday night, the fences were lined with people around the entire track. There were VIP tents on the front straight, along with a number of vendor tents inside and outside.

      David Cole - EKN Managing Editor

      • #31666
        bob prinzo
        Participant

        ok,heres more:

        we compete in tag jr, besides the sonoma challenge race,this was our first national race. i will say this first before i go on, my driver and i both agree we would definatly do it again.

        this track was difficult for the top drivers out there,as most told my sons mechanic/coach,as he knew most of them. its called PRO TOUR for a reason,its not for everyone.and we definatly had some issues,biggest being the off camber exits. put a wheel off the grip and good luck. we rebuilt the front left 3 times and replaced 2 axels.BUT,by heat 1 on sunday he had it figured out and we finished 16th of 31 in the main.wasnt easy,we busted our asses to get there.

        problem no.1- 108 on fri,106 on sat, tolerable on sun.

        problem no. 2- 5hrs sleep on fri,4 hrs sleep on sat after an 18 hr day in the oven like ht. 9 total hrs of sleep for 3 loooong days of racing.i would think this could alter thought processes and reaction times somewhat.

        #3- we ran behind tag cadet, i can tell you that at least 3 hrs of delays on sat were a result of the cadets. and with only 2 pickup vehicals with a single kart capacity each,and 42 cadets go out and 18 finish,THATS a problem. and you could count on that every time they went out. personally.i dont think theres the maturity required to run street races,at least this one.

        one more day of practice would have worked wonders for everybody, the track was plenty wide enough,there just was zero runoff for mistakes.take all the karts that run into the dirt at any other track,and you pretty much have what crashed into the barriers.other wrecks,like the vid of the tag sr race where the two drivers in front of him split and there was a kart in the middle of the track and he t boned that kart, that actually happens quite often on other “safer” tracks.

        the racing on sun improved dramatically,why? i believe drivers started thinking more.(except cadets)and another day of track time behind them.

        as for modesto:

        problem no.1- see no. 1 above- when the sun went down the place filled up,we walked thru there before our main on sat night and it was packed, to expcct anyone but us to be out in that heat is just plain stupid. the bars were slammed.there was really only one resturant that publicly complained and he was anti race from day one,so no matter what,he was gonna bitch.

        from what i heard,you prolly wont see the bridges again,they supposedly were too narrow and too many steps for joe public.what theyre talkin about is opening certain fences between races to let poeple thru.access did kinda suck,you had to go all the way around the track to get to the other side. as for the berriers, im sure theres 15 million different opinions on them, i thought they did what they were supposed to do.

        and YES, straight out of toms mouth sun morn at each individual drivers meeting,he stated that this was to bring more people into karting. and i guarantee every pre teen and teen in attendance thinks they can do this.lol

        jmho

    • #31690
      Roger Ruthhart
      Participant

      Let’s give credit to Tom and SKUSA for trying to pull off a first class event.

      If anyone is thinking about doing a street race, please call me. I would be happy to share what we’ve learned the hard way. But one quick point — kart tracks are about 30 feet wide and streets are much wider. Set up a course within the street so there is runoff (about 8-10 feet) on both sides. It makes a world of difference. If your roads aren’t wide enough to do that, find another place.

      Barriers need to be able to move – not against the curb. Oh, and don’t use water barriers — might as well have concrete road dividers, plus they can leak. And pedestrian bridges don’t work — we gave up on them 18 years ago. They narrow the track, little kids can fall on the steps and people can drop things onto the track during racing.

      Since we’ve had some people ask, I point out that we have a much different track setup and barrier system at the Rock Island Grand Prix. Come race with us and help us celebrate our 20th anniversary.

    • #31732
      Roger Ruthhart
      Participant

      My apologies to Tom and Stan from SKUSA. Following the Modesto race I had several inquiries from people regarding street courses. I was attempting to share some information learned over my 21 years doing them and the philosophy at Rock Island. In retrospect I can see that my post may have been taken as “piling on” which was not my intent.

       

    • #31774
      Tim Pappas
      Participant

      I hope that the great people at SKUSA take Roger up on his offer of advice for a street race.  The RIGP is done right when it comes to schedule and safety.

      The Modesto race was cool, but was definitely lacking in those areas.  The schedule problem was obvious by Friday night. I’m not sure why Sundays schedule wasn’t adopted for Saturday also.  It may just be my opinion, but I don’t think racers or spectators are all that thrilled about racing until 9pm on Sunday night. Saturday night is cool. Sunday, not so much.  As for safety, just two words, Tech Pro.

      At the end of the day though, there was way too much jackassery on the part of the drivers which is not limited to this event. Reference the Dallas race, any TAG senior race, or the Supernats.  I am one that loves a good slide job, rubbing pods mid corner, or even a slick bump and run from a faster driver coming through the field.  However, none of those include knocking people off the track.  There is no attempt at passing anymore.  Run into or over the guy and proceed.  And of course you must hit them hard.  It’s okay. They probably have a rich Dad who can pay to fix the kart and at worst pay the ER bills.  The driving these days is atrocious.  I’m not sure if it is the safety of the current bodywork or lack of talent or just general disrespect for anything that isn’t “you”.

      Just my opinion. Flame away.

    • #31824
      Bob Vehring
      Participant

      No Flames at all Tim, a couple questions or comments

      1 At one time, at least out here, there were requirements that you needed to met for certian class’s. Shifter being one, TaG another A required amount of time in a lower HP class being one of them. Same deal for Road Racing. Is that required?

      I understand Shops and sales men hate this, I also know first hand its a problem for special or “one of” races to get proper varifacation, but clearly, clearly some of these people are far over their heads.

       

      That brings us to Number 2 question which I really don’t get at all. 2 cy sprint seems obsessed with this concept that you need to hire, tuners, chassis guys, driving coaches and be “under someones tent” to be competitive. My kids have raced every form of karting, and really I just don’t see much of that anywhere else. To be honest, some places you’d be laughed off the track.

      We always have asked others for advice, and given it ourselves to anyone that asks us, but there’s no question in my mind, that a increasing number of driver are being pushed beyond their personal experience level either by their parents or personal ego or shops looking for their next disposable hero with a wallet. Any driver has to have the knowledge and experience to move up to faster forms of racing. There’s a difference between someone thinking their ready, and really having it behind them

      Sorry that sound so harsh, it certainly doesn’t mean all people or shops by any means, but if you have been around, and grown up through kart racing, look at what you see today, you get the point

      We just got back from the Road Race at Blackhawk Farms. 2 mile track 100+ mph for many classes, no shortage of shifters, TaG’s and Sprint opens. Really don’t know official entries numbers but would guess the normal 200-300 entries. Total number of Red Flags, 1, to chase the snapping turtle off the side of the track, I think he was trying to grid for LO 206

       

      Serious point here, far to many people trying to jump into something their not ready for

    • #31844
      Jimmy McNeil
      Participant

      “We just got back from the Road Race at Blackhawk Farms. 2 mile track 100+ mph for many classes, no shortage of shifters, TaG’s and Sprint opens. Really don’t know official entries numbers but would guess the normal 200-300 entries. Total number of Red Flags, 1,”

      No way you can compare a RR at Blackhawk to a National Protour street circuit race.

      Take the top drivers in the world, put them on a super fast, super narrow street circuit with obstacles and your going to have carnage.

       “I am one that loves a good slide job, rubbing pods mid corner, or even a slick bump and run from a faster driver coming through the field”

      Tim, did you watch the S1 race? Tons of respect. Watching Lennox make his way through the field was amazing. I love racing with the S1 guys, most know how to move a guy out of the way without crashing him, that skill is definitely lacking in other classes.

    • #31850
      Tim Pappas
      Participant

      I agree that there are some drivers that may move up too fast, but they are only a small part of the problem. Comparing a RR at Blackhawk to a SKUSA sprint race is like comparing a 30 minute drive to the farm in Nebraska to a 15 minute commute on the 405 freeway in LA during rush hour.  Okay, not really, because there is no such thing as only a 15 minute commute on the 405.  It takes the same basic driving skills, but different tactics and level of aggression.

      The problem I see is a basic lack of respect for other drivers and their equipment.  Jimmy, I did not see either of the S1 races at Modesto.  They were both past my bedtime. But you will see that I specifically called out 2 events in my other post as well as a whole class, TAG Sr.  The shifter guys don’t seem to have the same level of crashem bashem mentality that the TAG guys do. It’s there in both, but TAG takes it to a whole ‘nother level.  It’s not a matter of basic talent in either class.  There are some speedy TAG drivers that would still just rather run you over than bother to work out a pass.  I won’t hypothesize why that is so, whether it is lack of breast feeding as children, middle child syndrome, or being the last one picked for kickball in school, but it is what it is.  At least that’s how I see it.

    • #31866
      Bob Vehring
      Participant

      Guys, I’m not looking to fight, but I don’t think that some of you are looking for answers either. I also don’t think you understand that the bad press you guys gets effects everyone in the sport

      The comparison with Blackhawk has nothing to do with comparing the tracks simply put, we have the same classes, some like the 250 twins, and superkarts, much faster, are our tracks wider, yes but many not by as much as you think. Are you limited to the layout of existing road, certainly, that’s why streets are not race tracks. Think we don’t have different things to deal with? Try Grattan sometime

      None of that had to do with my point which simply is, with maybe 7 or 8 Road Race series working around the country all season, entries from several hundred to a thousand. The point simply is, in any race, the drivers simply must be able to handle the track safely, you can’t blame the track, you chose the track. I hope you don’t shoot paintball with real bullets then complain you got hurt.

       

      Jimmy, I see you have adopted the ” Best drivers in the World” title, boy thats been around before. Ever tried a 1/8 mile dirt track? Think 125’s are fast, come see the 250’s with GP bike engines or the twin engine laydowns. Hardest races we have been in were WKA Dirt back in the 2000’s. 2300 entries at Daytona, 240 shooting for St. medium 30 kart field alone with only 2 qualifying sessions . You might enjoy going into a corner at 70, with 30 others, on dirt. Don’t take yourself so seriously, remember lawn mower racing gets more spectators, sponsors and TV coverage then we do

      Theres only one reason I’m even in this conversation, my job is to promote karting. Sorry but out here, never heard a word about this race before it happened. Shifters aren’t around much anywhere east of the river. They had their day, but it seems to be long gone. I think thats too bad, I still have one in the basement, but it hasn’t been out in 10 years. The problem here is when something goes bad, now it is everywhere thanks to public media. The first I knew of that race was all the crash vids that showed up. For the last 2 decades, my wife and I average about 35 days a year doing shows to get people into karting, unless you also talk to thousands of potential new people, trying to get them involved, I don’t think you have any idea how much of an impact those videos have, they scare new people off. 70% or more of our new people are Kid Karts of Jr Sportsman. Parents see that and their done, it effects every track in the country, its not just about California shifter and Tag’s

    • #31875
      Daryle Redlin
      Participant

      Just wanted to add to the conversation. My son is Jordan Redlin, his video can be see a few posts above. If you watch carefully at about the 2min mark you will notice that he gets a slight push from behind and it pushes him off line, the driver behind gets by. Jordan does not try to then take him out, he puts his head down and drives clean and makes a lot of passes without touching anything. At the 4:58 mark you will see the problem with the chicane. A driver in front clips it and Jordan has to make a big move to avoid him and the barrier, about 5 karts get by. He then picks up the pace and re-passes about three of them. I only put it out there that its not all the Tag Sr. drivers that drive poorly, many of them drive very clean and with a high level of control. My son did contact the wall a couple of times but never touched a kart the entire weekend and drove from last to 4th in the final on Sunday. It can be done with proper technique and not rushing up onto the bumper of the kart in front. More time has to be spent with the younger drivers to teach them the right way to race and pass. Once this happens the racing will be awesome to watch. I think Skusa needs to spend some time developing a crew of officials that can make calls when they see bad driving. They should wear brightly colored vests or something and they need to be visible on the track so that drivers know they are being watched. I doubt it would take more than a couple of races to settle all this down if there were some consequences for some of the more aggressive drivers. With a better schedule and a revised layout the Grand Prix could be a great race.

      Daryle Redlin

       

    • #31876
      Jimmy McNeil
      Participant

      “Jimmy, I see you have adopted the ” Best drivers in the World” title, boy thats been around before. Ever tried a 1/8 mile dirt track?”

      The best drivers in the world comment wasn’t my opinion, its fact. Lennox and Fore are two of the best sprint drivers in the world. Not talking about F1, Road Racing, dirt oval or a bunch of guys racing lawn mowers in their back yard. They are a couple of the best 125 sprint racers in the world.

      Tim, it was past my bed time to. Never in my life have I been on track at 2;30am. I felt like a zombie and the track was fast as heck. I had a steering wheel hub break going into turn 1, was sheer luck that I didn’t crash.

    • #31880
      Stewart Willis
      Participant

      The hilarity of some of the posts by these Monday  morning quarterbacks is insane.   For those of you that did not attend Modesto, you could have no idea of the enormity of this event and the infrastructural planning that went into this event.   And with all due respect, to compare the track to RIGP is a joke.    If Tom used hay bails every 10-15 feet like RIGP, there would be people asking for his head on a platter because of the injuries that WOULD have happened.  I dare someone to find a single fence that is exposed to the drivers on the Modesto course.   Compare this video of RIGP to one of Modesto’s track:   http://www.rockislandgrandprix.com/video_helmet.html ..  It would be like comparing a club race to the Supernats.  So, asking Tom to take advice from that track design is a F@#$%  joke.  With those haybales in Modesto, there would have been way more injuries.

      Did Tom bite off more than he could chew by making the first race at Modesto a Pro Tour event?  Maybe.   Was the track too fast?  Yes.  But, everyone who comes on these forums and suggests how we can make karting mainstream and get more public involvement should try to grasp what was attempted.

      Dont get me wrong, I am not pleased with the damage done to my karts or the dive bombing kids that knocked us out of Sunday’s main in turn one after qualifying 6th.  But, the public lynching of SKUSA here will insure that no other promoter thinks outside of the box and tries to blaze new trails.

       

       

       

    • #31881
      Stacey Cook
      Participant

      I would put Jimmy up against pretty much anyone here in the U.S. on a street course or Road racing. Plus I bet he would surprise you if you threw him on a dirt oval. He can flat drive!

    • #31885
      Evan Fraser
      Participant

      Daryle’s point is right on the money.  It’s not just about the Modesto GP but all kart racing.  The drivers need to be taught good racing from bad racing from the get-go, whether they start young or old.  I know enforcement is very difficult with the speed of these events so it falls to us, the drivers and coaches, to try to keep this sport clean.

      Jordan is an excellent driver.  I’m much slower and held him up for 3 laps once and didn’t get any more than a couple of taps on the rear bumper.  That comes from good coaching.

      Evan Fraser

      #43 - Formula K FK01 / Briggs LO206

      West Coast Kart Club

    • #31891
      Keith Bridgeman
      Participant

      Hey Stewart,  you might want to look at a RIGP race newer then 2010.  Haybales are no longer used.    A street race that been around since 1995 would seem to have some value to most.   SKUSA use to be apart of the RIGP with some very strong fields.   Club race to Supernats comparo is ummm  interesting for sure

      http://bridgemanbroskarting.blogspot.com/

      • #31909
        Stewart Willis
        Participant

        Keith Bridgeman wrote “Hey Stewart,  you might want to look at a RIGP race newer then 2010.  Haybales are no longer used.”

        OK.. How about the safety cones and exposed curbs in 2013 at RIGP???  There was none of that exposure in Modesto.

        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mffQPHAUIHA

        I am not here to bash RIGP.  I am simply saying that in Modesto  there was so many plastic barriers there for the safety of the drivers. You cant even compare  the coverage to RIGP.   To say that they were not concerned about safety is ludicrous.  I think that at the end of the day the Modesto track was just too fast and the drivers were too aggressive and tired from the long hot days.

         

         

    • #31898
      Bob Vehring
      Participant

      Some of you know me, some don’t. Those that do know my point is not so a ” lynching of SKUSA here will insure that no other promoter thinks outside of the box and tries to blaze new trails.” in fact, its the opposite, To hope that future events come off better then then this one.

      I have some things I really don’t like to bring up, but maybe it will help the real ” Monday  morning quarterbacks” understand what were really dealing with. One of the jobs I’ve had in this sport is being one of the handful of people that put on the Road America Supernationals. I did it for 20 years, but the race was around for 35. Often we were over the 1000 entry mark. Twice in 3 years I had to deal with the situation on track for two of our racers that did not make it home. One was an incident between two TaG racers, both had at least a decade of racing, both also did shifters, the kid that died was a close friend and had grown up with my kids. The other incident points to Jimmys comment on the hub. In this case a 2 dollar clevis pin failed. Even with a  wide track and good sized sand trap, the man did not make it.

      We as racers understand their are risks involved in what we do. We also depend on the various Series, groups, Promoters, whoever, to give us the safest track possible.

      You are correct that I was not at this track, but I’ve been around long enough to know when I see the number of comments made, and who some of the people making them are regarding the safety of this track,  there must be something to it. Never did I slam SKUSA or suggest they give this up, I do hope they learn from it.

      If I’m the Quarterback someone referred to, I can only hope you don’t have to take the ride home from some of the races I did, besides the two mentioned above there has been many more incidents, injuries to kids, carnage to clean up, parents and family to talk to, investigations you become part of, and of course the media which always show up when something bad happens. Those things give you a perspective I certainly hope most people don’t ever get

    • #31899
      Jimmy McNeil
      Participant

      “Jimmy, I see you have adopted the ” Best drivers in the World” title”

      Just to be clear, I don’t think for a second that I fall into that category, I was referring to the top guys that flew in from around the world.

    • #31905
      Bob Vehring
      Participant

      Jimmy, it was really aimed at you either, I don’t know many of the west coast people. I just see far to often what I think happens too much, especially with kids, is the thinking their on their way to NASCAR. That does happen, but not often and sometimes there those parents that are far more aggressive on that road then their actual experience level.

      I don’t often bring up the things I did in the last post, but I think many/most don’t really understand that until it hits close to home. I hope they don’t have to go through that.

      Both Danica and Ryan Hunter Reay are stars now They are both mid 30’s and both were racing karts in Man Cup and MWSS when they were 12 along with my two kids. One of mine is doing well in Pro Snowmobiles. Today everyones in a hurry, thinks this comes in 5-10 years. These guys have all been racing for 25 years or more. You can buy some knowledge, but you really can’t buy experience, only time gives you that

    • #31911
      Tim Pappas
      Participant

      Cole got it pretty much spot on in his column for a guy who just sits in a booth.  If you want to see driver respect done right watch the last five or so laps of the cup race at the glen. Two guys who wanted to win pushed, shoved, beat, and wailed on each other yet were willing to lose if it meant taking the other out. Thats what sprint kart racing used to be and should be.

    • #31967
      Troy Berry
      Participant

      I was not trying to beat up on Skusa for their ambition. I think most of my observations have been backed up with the other comments. I give Tom  and his team full credit for making the effort and doing what they do for us in Karting. As far as my hale bales comment and plastic karting barriers and RIPG,  I was being a little biased by my limited knowledge on the subject. Upon review I see they are no longer using hay bales  at RIGP.  We use the Scribner style barriers at our track in Reno in conjunction with hay bales. I thought this was how most outdoor tracks used them.  The plastic takes the 1st hit and then the bales absorb and disperse  the energy as the plastic collapses into them.   More give to the whole system. But at out track if your into the barriers, you are likely way off  line and off the pavement, so karts grazing or bouncing off them and back on line isn’t necessarily  the objective. I too would not want karts plowing directly into hay bales if it can be avoided.

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