Just the opposite. I have a ton of respect for the S4 and the new super masters guys. I learned about karting form Terry Ives, God Father of the 250 superkart that was a dominant driver as long as he wanted to be. He stopped driving 250’s (mostly) after a terrible crash at Thunderhill. What I said I have heard is what I have heard form some guys, I have not taken a survey. It isn’t to knock anyone at all. Just more about that I think transition from junior to senior too young. That perhaps instead of weights being adjusted maybe ages need the adjustment. There are plenty of 115 pound 16 year olds but not so many 115 pound 25 year olds.